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tations friends and welcome uh tonight

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we are doing uh I guess I should call it

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the first of the insomnia streams

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so uh I've been having a lot of trouble

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sleeping and just decided maybe it's

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best to

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um use that insomnia Insomniac time uh

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to work get some things done maybe get

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ahead of the uh constant

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treadmill right that I feel like I'm on

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sometimes if that makes sense and uh

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um we have been talking about

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covering other subjects and I uh I think

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that's a great idea especially if it's

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something that I care about and tonight

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um yeah I definitely care about

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tonight because uh some things are going

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on and uh I just I don't even know where

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to begin James O'Keefe

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uh is I think a great muckraker

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and let's uh get into what that is uh

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for those that don't uh

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don't know

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it is it is a journalist a certain kind

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of journalist and I I am sure that James

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O'Keefe would be considered that uh and

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but more so than that uh

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yeah we have definitely been called milk

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so James O'Keefe from Project veritas

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has been recently

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ousted from his own organization which

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he funded and I apologize a little

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distracted there for a moment

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before we get into what happened with

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him getting thrown out of his own

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organization well essentially thrown out

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uh they sort of castrated him they

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didn't throw him out completely they

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just took away any power that he may

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organization such as the ability to hire

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or fire people

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um and we'll get into that but I thought

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that we should begin tonight with just

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an explanation of muck raking because

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muck raking journalism is one of my

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loves in life and you can

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see in our show here

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um we have at various times been called

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the muckraker of UFO land or conspiracy

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land because we do some hard-hitting

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investigative journalists and we expose

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corruption and things like that

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for those unaware muck-breaking

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journalism is a type of investigative

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journalism that seeks to expose

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corruption Injustice and wrongdoing in

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society

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the term muck ranking was coined by

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President Theodore Roosevelt all the way

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back in 1906 that's where the term

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muckraking journalism originated

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and Theodore Roosevelt used it to

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describe the work of journalists who

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were raking up the muck of society

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muck-breaking journalism has a long and

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storied history in the United States

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dating back to the late 19th century

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some of the most famous muckrakers of

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the era included up then Sinclair who

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wrote The Jungle and the jungle was an

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expose on all the trouble and corruption

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in the meat packing industry other

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notables include Ida Tarbell who exposed

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the monopolistic practices of the

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Standard Oil Company

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she exposed them as a monopoly she

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investigated them and told the world

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what she found

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now the impact of muckraking Journalism

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has been significant and I think it's an

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um because

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by exposing corruption and wrongdoing

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so-called muckrakers have helped to

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bring about important societal

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and even political reforms

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for example the muckraking journalism of

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the early 20th century

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for sure played a key role in the

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passage of laws that regulated Food and

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antitrust regulations

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more recently muckraking journalism has

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continued to play an important role in

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uncovering wrongdoing and exposing

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corruption

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corruption human rights abuses among

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now one of the key benefits of

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muckraking Journalism is that it helps

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to hold those in power accountable you

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know that saying if you're gonna speak

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truth to power that comes from muck

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because muckraking journalists speak

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truth to power they don't care how rich

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or how powerful someone is they expose

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them for corruption and wrongdoing

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muckrakers help to ensure that those who

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would abuse their power are exposed and

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are held to account

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and this certainly can help to prevent

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addition to holding the powerful

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also serves to inform the public

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many secret things have been uncovered

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by muckraking journalists things that

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the rich the powerful Elite the evil

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doers would rather never be known by the

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general public by shining a light on

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corruption and wrongdoing muckrakers

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help to ensure that those who would

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abuse their power are exposed and held

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this helps prevent abuses of power and

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to promote transparency and

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accountability in all levels of society

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in addition to holding the powerful

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accountable muckraking journalism as I

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said it serves to inform the public

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and it also educates the public about

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important issues and raises awareness

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about societal and political problems

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and this can help mobilize public

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opinion and promote meaningful social

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changes it has been proven to promote

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some have accused my Breakers of being

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sensationalist or biased in their

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reporting others have argued that the

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intense focus on Scandal and Rome doing

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can be harmful to public discourse and

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can erode trust in institutions but I

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believe that if if it can be proven that

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we should not trust our institutions

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whatever they are whether they be

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should know these things and I am a huge

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supporter of this type of investigative

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journalism remains an important and

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valuable form of investigative reporting

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by exposing corruption we're all doing

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muckrakers help to promote transparency

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society in a world where the powerful

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often seek to evade scrutiny and to hide

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their evil misdeeds muckrakers

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are there to level the playing field

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muckraking journalism serves as a vital

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check on Power and provides a voice for

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so I'm a big supporter of muckraking

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of course have my own beliefs however I

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have not chosen a side right I believe

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that both the Republicans and the

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Democrats are criminals and choosing a

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um it doesn't really work for me you

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know it's two wings of the same bird to

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and despite what I think about James

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O'Keefe and his political beliefs or

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some of the work that he has done much

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of the work that he has done in exposing

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people watching may not be uh you know

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ousted it's helpful I think to

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understand a little more about him and

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his history of him and his organization

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um so we're going to get into just a

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little bit of his history and then we're

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they ousted him and he essentially

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showed up at the office to get his stuff

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and and uh he gave a talk to uh the

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people his staff before he got his stuff

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you know got his marbles and rolled out

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he got his marbles and went home but

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they really forced his hand and they

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so James O'Keefe is certainly a

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controversial figure in the world of

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investigative journalism he's known for

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O'Keefe and his team Veritas I'm sorry I

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always mispronounce it it's veritas

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uh James okay

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to expose alleged wrongdoing by

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2010 and project Veritas describes

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itself as a non-profit organization that

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is dedicated to quote investigating and

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institutions unquote

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investigations into a wide range of

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however O'Keefe and project Veritas have

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their methods some have accused the

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organization for example of using

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deceptive and unethical tactics such as

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misleading impression of events or using

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false identities to gain access to

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uh critics have also accused Mr O'Keefe

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of having a political agenda which you

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on the right side of the fence right I

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think that's fair criticism and some

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suggesting that his investigations are

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biased towards conservative causes in

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organizations of course they are

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um but despite the controversies

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surrounding O'Keefe and project Veritas

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the organ is his organization has had

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some incredibly notable successes in

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exposing wrongdoing for example in 2017

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project Veritas released a series of

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manipulate news coverage for political

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purposes

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the video sparked a major controversy

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and have has led to the resignation or

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firing of three CNN employees

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in addition to CNN project Veritas has

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targeted a range of other organizations

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including Planned Parenthood Acorn and

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the New York Times you may remember that

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Planned Parenthood expose he he posed as

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a pimp with a hooker with him went in

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the Planned Parenthood and then members

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of Planned Parenthood told them

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to lie essentially right about the their

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illegal activities right and amazing

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that a government government

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organization is giving advice to a pimp

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and his hooker but I thought that was an

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excellent piece he's also going after

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acorn in the New York Times and some of

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his investigations had resulted in legal

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action with project Veritas facing

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lawsuits over its tactics however to the

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best of my knowledge and recollection

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and research James O'Keefe and project

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Veritas have won every lawsuit ever uh

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you know levied against them and he has

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won several lawsuits against other

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organizations for things like slander or

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damaging his reputation or making false

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statements about him

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overall James O'Keefe and project

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Veritas represent a controversial and

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polarizing force in the world of

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investigative journalism

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while his organization has been

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successful in uncovering wrongdoing its

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methods and motivations are often called

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into question by their many critics

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I believe that it remains a highly

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controversial organization but I believe

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it is a very necessary organization

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and uh I fully support them

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um I I think that despite his political

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leanings you know you can't I don't

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think it's fair to uh oh I guess

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something on my shirt there I don't

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think it's fair to criticize him for

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having political leanings when you know

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literally he has proven that CNN

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manipulates the news

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to be favorable to their selected

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political party which is the left I

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considered what he did to be an

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equalizing Force right and you can say

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well James O'Keefe he's so right-wing

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and you know he's biased

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maybe there needed to be someone that

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was right-wing and biased to do that

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sting on CNN and prove that their

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left-wing in bias so in that sense I

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considered James O'Keefe and project

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Veritas to be an equalizing Force it's

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only fair right

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if if we're going to have an entire

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multi-million or billion dollar news

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industry purposefully skewing things

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to the betterment of their political

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affiliation why shouldn't somebody on

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the other side of the fence go and

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improve they did they do that and he

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sure did

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so recently they they try to toss him

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out now there's a lot of controversy

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about this but

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um essentially

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from my research into the players

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involved here

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it appears

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from an outsider's perspective looking

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in and by the way this is all just my

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opinion you're free to form your own

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opinions but it looks to me like some

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people within his organization were

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getting greedy and they don't like him

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being the person in charge of the money

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even though ask any donor to to that

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organization who are they donating to

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they're donating to James O'Keefe so

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this

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organizations board members decision to

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essentially castrate him and make him

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powerless within that organization

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I think this is the worst idea that I've

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ever seen in fact there's memes going

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all over the Internet

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of uh you know people saying project

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Veritas and showing somebody shoot

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themselves in the foot

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it's very clear uh that they are project

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Veritas is now losing social media

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followers rapidly thousands and

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thousands of people a day are

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unfollowing project Veritas uh because

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many people believe as some people in

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the live chat uh I heard solar Marshall

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here in the live chat earlier and he

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said

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there is no

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project Veritas without James O'Keefe it

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just doesn't he is Project Veritas and

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by the way just to display how much

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people believe that James O'Keefe is

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Project veritas

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a well-known journalist recently tweeted

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project Veritas just committed suicide

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and people actually replied and said oh

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my God James O'Keefe killed himself

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that's how connected James O'Keefe is to

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the name project Veritas a well-known

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journalist tweeted and he was

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essentially saying what I said that

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project Veritas shot themselves in the

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foot trying to get rid of the founder

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James O'Keefe but he said

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project Veritas just committed suicide

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people in that thread that and and

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believed that James O'Keefe had

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committed suicide they didn't understand

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the context of the Tweet he is the

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founder he is the face he is the the

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primary fundraiser and by the way they

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have raised millions and millions and

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millions and millions of dollars

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all through his work his passion but now

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it would appear that the greedy board

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members decided that they they can do

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better than the founder they can do

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better than the face

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the leader all this time and

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I have to say from a human perspective

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this story bothered me because imagine

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if you had just spent the last 13 years

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of your life working 80 hours a week

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completely dedicated to that cause and

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you built a multi-million dollar

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organization

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you created content that got millions

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tens of millions maybe hundreds of

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millions of views all around the world

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when he put out this Pfizer story this

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was reported on internationally internet

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it went in Germany in Japan people were

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reporting

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what he showed

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so imagine

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you know from a human perspective I felt

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bad for the guy I gotta be honest

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despite whatever I think about his

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political beliefs he

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created this organization he

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he created that garden and he watered

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that Garden every day he tilled that

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Garden he worked that Garden until it

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bore fruit

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right

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and then along comes some other members

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of his organization who decide they

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don't want him anymore they don't need

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him anymore they can do better without

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him and by the way

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there is internal emails of project

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Veritas board members telling other

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people within the organization if we get

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rid of James you get a raise

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so don't tell me this is not about

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people being greedy and money they're

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literally bribing people to go along

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with the if you want to call it a coup

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they're bribing people to go along with

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this coup to get rid of this guy telling

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them if we get rid of him you're gonna

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get a raise

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and again

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uh from the research I've done it looks

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like that this is all about money these

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board members do not like when you've

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got a guy who is like James O'Keefe he's

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all about this Mission he's not going to

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let that misuse money and funds right

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but some of these other board members

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have other ideas for those millions and

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millions of dollars and they've decided

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like I said that they could do better

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without them now

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uh I knew that he would do something so

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James O'Keefe uh he tweeted this on

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Twitter and we're gonna we're gonna go

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through this because there are some

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Bombshells in here about what happened

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and I gotta commend the guy for having

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balls so they tell him you got to go

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away for two weeks don't have any

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communication with uh sponsors you know

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the people giving the money don't

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communicate with the the office staff

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you know and you're stripped of all your

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power go communicate with anybody and uh

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he walked right into the office to get

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his stuff he's gonna take his marbles

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and roll home but before he left he

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decided that he would speak to the staff

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and

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this is one of the best videos I've ever

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seen on Twitter uh we're gonna put up

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our fair use Banner in a moment here let

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me put up our fair use Banner this is

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certainly a transformative work we are

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educating the public about James O'Keefe

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being ousted at project veritas

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Veritas I always say it wrong

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uh yeah

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so let me put my fair use banner up

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before we get into this this is a

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transformative work we're educating the

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public we'll be critiquing and uh

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offering commentary about this video and

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also you can help me there in the live

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chat to make this a transformative work

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any comments that you want me to put on

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the screen while we're doing this will

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help me to make this a transformative

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work and make this allowable by law and

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okay to do on YouTube and everywhere

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else because it will become fair use

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because it will be a transformative work

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not the original work I appreciate the

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help any comments or questions put them

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in all capital letters uh that helps me

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identify that those are comments meant

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for me uh one second now

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let me uh where did it go there we go

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all right we're gonna go right from the

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he was even kind enough to blur the one

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office worker that's seen in the video I

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think that's a very fair thing

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all right thank you all for being here

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on a President's Day but

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I think it's fitting that

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you know we're here on President's Day

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um

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so I wrote These so I could get the

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words right you know but it's obviously

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from the heart and and I wanted to do

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this in person with you all not over a

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zoom or teams and you know he's going to

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film it

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and this is these are intended just for

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a million followers that I have on

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Twitter that somebody leaked by the way

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somebody leaked this video so then he

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posted it at least that's what he said

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yeah this is just for us I recognize

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that when you send something out to 60

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people but I'm I'm not gonna do that

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today I'm so you know so I just wanted

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to tell you the truth so so I'm going to

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read this and I'm going to try my best

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to you know speak from the heart but I

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did write these words and I want to tell

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you what's going on so here we go

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it's going to take about 15 minutes to

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do this yeah they're going to fail

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horribly with that journalism is

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reporting things powerful people want

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kept hidden for the wrong reasons moral

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wrongs bad behaviors

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as journalists were the custodians of

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the Public's conscience and as we've

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gone deeper and deeper exposing and

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Illuminating corruption the lies hidden

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from public view the line that separates

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good and evil becomes more clear

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institutions we investigate but within

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one another

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throughout my 13 years doing this our

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mission has evolved from Simply being

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about exposing the truth with some

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hidden cameras

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to something more transcendental giving

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people hope right that's what we do and

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00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:46,799
I'm going to stand here because I just

564
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,400
feel and I think it's interesting

565
00:26:53,630 --> 00:26:51,840
this one of the things I thought was

566
00:26:55,610 --> 00:26:53,640
interesting that this guy is getting

567
00:26:58,010 --> 00:26:55,620
basically tossed out of his own

568
00:27:00,890 --> 00:26:58,020
organization that he has built for 13

569
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,900
years right and instead of just getting

570
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,360
up there and being like nasty and bitter

571
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,480
he is like still talking about the

572
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,880
ideals he found at this organization on

573
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:11,100
and I gotta respect him for that I'd be

574
00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:13,320
yelling and screaming right like good

575
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:15,900
luck you clowns right I'm take I'm

576
00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:18,000
leaving and I'm taking all the donors

577
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:20,039
with me they will I don't think

578
00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:21,480
anybody's going to donate to them

579
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,600
without him this is going to backfire on

580
00:27:31,730 --> 00:27:26,760
them terribly like I'm filming a video

581
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:33,230
um

582
00:27:37,549 --> 00:27:36,000
and as we ascended into that higher

583
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:37,559
purpose which I think we all understand

584
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:39,539
that we have

585
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:40,980
um we have suffered through Triumph and

586
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,740
disaster along the way in a similar

587
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:45,240
fashion to what I wrote about in my book

588
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:46,679
you know the first chapter was called

589
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:48,600
suffering so the line that separates

590
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:50,940
Good and Evil passes not through the

591
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:52,860
states nor classes nor political parties

592
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:55,559
but right through every single human

593
00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:58,500
heart the quote sultanism so that Line

594
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:00,419
in the Sand becomes more clear

595
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:02,700
the deeper we go in investigating these

596
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:04,980
powerful institutions so I think it's

597
00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:07,320
great you know what uh he says later in

598
00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:09,299
this that he he uh when this happened

599
00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:11,400
and they told him to stay away and get

600
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:14,340
out you know he uh he went hiking and I

601
00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:16,620
gotta tell you I do that too man I got a

602
00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:18,120
cabin in the mountains you're trying to

603
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,059
figure some things out go hiking and

604
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:22,799
it's great that he came back like with

605
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:25,380
all this philosophical reflection on his

606
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:27,720
last 13 years good for him over the last

607
00:28:34,970 --> 00:28:29,940
uh over the last

608
00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:34,980
few weeks I have felt a lot of despair

609
00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:38,400
and a lot of seeing a lot of evil

610
00:28:42,289 --> 00:28:40,740
and felt overcome with various emotions

611
00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:42,299
over the last few weeks you could say

612
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,520
I've seen glimpses of Heaven and Hell

613
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,799
yeah I wonder how this guy how long it

614
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,480
took him to get all those knives out of

615
00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:50,159
his back right

616
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:52,380
of Darkness and Light but I take away

617
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:56,220
from these is the gratitude that I have

618
00:28:59,769 --> 00:28:57,120
um

619
00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,779
for many of you for most of you

620
00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:01,980
and so many except for the Pricks

621
00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:03,960
throwing them out have seen and I'm

622
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,360
grateful for that and the generosity and

623
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:07,679
good will we have steadily built over

624
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,260
the past 13 years so many people

625
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,080
I've received thousands of text messages

626
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:15,120
and phone calls from people all over the

627
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:18,120
world concerned about my well-being yeah

628
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:20,700
everybody supporting him and vilifying

629
00:29:24,169 --> 00:29:22,260
these idiots that are throwing him out

630
00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:24,179
of his own organization

631
00:29:27,769 --> 00:29:25,620
but as I was going through this process

632
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:27,779
I reflected upon my appreciation from

633
00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:29,100
any of you

634
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:31,080
what makes us great is that we do this

635
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:33,240
work because we actually believe in it

636
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,460
right we actually believe in this

637
00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:37,200
shocks people

638
00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:39,480
that we do and we have a passion for it

639
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:42,179
and we have principle like I know you

640
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:44,340
know we don't sell out I think that's

641
00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:45,200
fair

642
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,559
well we didn't used to sell out but

643
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:51,360
these Pricks that were running this

644
00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:54,840
thing with me uh pulled me out so at

645
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,940
least most of us

646
00:30:00,110 --> 00:29:58,260
um we have a passion for doing the right

647
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,120
thing in a visual way no matter what

648
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:02,159
that's what binds us I know many of you

649
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:04,679
have experienced this despair alongside

650
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:05,880
of me

651
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,500
um in the last couple weeks

652
00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:09,360
one of you just told me the other day

653
00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:12,899
that you'd go work at Walmart at the

654
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:15,419
night shift so that you could do this

655
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:16,980
during the day

656
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:19,320
that's what one of you said to me I I

657
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:20,340
believe you

658
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:22,740
yeah well I gotta say I once worked for

659
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:25,020
a non-profit and it was kind of

660
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:26,820
refreshing that the people that worked

661
00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:28,980
for the non-profit of course this

662
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:31,980
Veritas is a non-profit people who work

663
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:34,320
there really believe in the cause so

664
00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:35,760
they're willing to take less money and

665
00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:37,320
make sacrifices because they feel like

666
00:30:41,389 --> 00:30:39,419
they're working on you know towards

667
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:41,399
something good every day oh and by the

668
00:30:45,409 --> 00:30:43,260
way thank you Mr fish for the kind and

669
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,419
generous dollar 49 super sticker did not

670
00:30:49,610 --> 00:30:47,520
see that and also thank you very much

671
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,620
for being a member we appreciate your

672
00:30:54,049 --> 00:30:51,600
kindness your generosity and support and

673
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:54,059
helping us to praise the cash

674
00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:56,460
Josh break the cash

675
00:31:00,769 --> 00:30:58,440
thank you very much for your kindness

676
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:00,779
and let me uh catch up with the live

677
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:03,600
chat I apologize we read every single

678
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,020
Super Chat and thank every single person

679
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,120
uh so we don't ever want to miss one and

680
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:11,279
if I you know

681
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,700
sometimes I get a little wrapped up here

682
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:16,980
um yeah and I agree solar Marshall says

683
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,020
you watched there will be major Fallout

684
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:22,080
from this departure well after this

685
00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:24,059
video if we get through it I'm going to

686
00:31:27,049 --> 00:31:25,620
show you their social media before and

687
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:27,059
after solar Marshall they're getting

688
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,100
hammered people are unfollowing them

689
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:31,919
left and right and uh anyway James

690
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:34,500
O'Keefe's followers across social medias

691
00:31:39,169 --> 00:31:37,320
Twitter and everything have risen by

692
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,179
several hundred thousand I believe and

693
00:31:46,250 --> 00:31:41,760
theirs has fallen but by around the same

694
00:31:49,549 --> 00:31:46,260
number so that's very interesting right

695
00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:49,559
rather than sell out

696
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:52,260
in fact I know this is true for

697
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,940
many of you

698
00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:55,679
and many more out there who wish to be

699
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:57,960
part of this it's true I remember back

700
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,659
in the beginning 13 years ago when I had

701
00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:02,159
like no money

702
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:04,440
I would have to use bubble gum duct tape

703
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:06,059
I think you were around during that time

704
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,440
I keep looking at you because I've known

705
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,600
you since Andrew Breitbart and my

706
00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:11,039
grandmother's chinchilla I literally had

707
00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:13,559
to place a project Veritas sticker on a

708
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:15,059
piece of cardboard that I ripped off

709
00:32:20,269 --> 00:32:17,940
from my dad's cardboard and stick it to

710
00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:20,279
a microphone at Radio Shack because I

711
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:23,880
had no money to buy a flag mic

712
00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:26,580
and good for him you know what I kind of

713
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:28,440
remember fondly those times like I

714
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,179
started this podcast with a crappy

715
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,679
microphone

716
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,360
um it's a long story but I had a

717
00:32:38,269 --> 00:32:35,580
recording studio and then I had to pack

718
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,279
up the recording studio to move and all

719
00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:40,320
I had was crappy mic I had a crappy

720
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,940
microphone and a falling apart computer

721
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,159
that's when I started this show with uh

722
00:32:48,889 --> 00:32:47,279
and uh thankfully you know through the

723
00:32:50,690 --> 00:32:48,899
generosity and support of people who

724
00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:50,700
believed in the work I was doing we're

725
00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:52,860
doing much better now and he certainly

726
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:55,799
has uh come a long way since those early

727
00:33:00,409 --> 00:32:58,320
lean days this was after experiencing a

728
00:33:03,169 --> 00:33:00,419
meteoric high of the acorn story I was

729
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:03,179
up and I was down

730
00:33:06,889 --> 00:33:04,799
um and I was broke again and I was

731
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,899
arrested and then crashed down to a

732
00:33:10,909 --> 00:33:08,720
meteoric low back in the carriage house

733
00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:10,919
resorting once again to bubble gum and

734
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,299
duct tape to achieve the NPR

735
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,919
investigation that took us yet again to

736
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,600
a meteoric high

737
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,760
I was so broke that I had to scribble my

738
00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:19,320
name and phone numbers on pieces of

739
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:24,470
something else

740
00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:26,700
from that to a multi-million dollar

741
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:28,620
organization

742
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,019
and so the saga continues

743
00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:33,120
back then there were no employees and no

744
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,730
I feel the sensation right now as Steve

745
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:42,840
Jobs once wrote about did you did you

746
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:45,000
see their complaints against him they

747
00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:46,980
accused him of stealing a sandwich from

748
00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:48,539
a pregnant woman

749
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:52,019
right and I I understand that this guy's

750
00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:53,880
probably a very difficult boss to work

751
00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:56,100
for because he's so driven and

752
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:58,019
idealistic and passionate about what

753
00:34:02,090 --> 00:33:59,519
he's trying to accomplish about the

754
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:02,100
mission but you're free let me know why

755
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:03,899
I got it wrong don't just tell me I got

756
00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:04,860
it wrong

757
00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:06,840
and uh

758
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,940
oh you say this guy is a scam artist

759
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,520
good riddance well we'll agree to

760
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,440
disagree you don't think that he should

761
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:15,599
have done what he did with Pfizer or CNN

762
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:17,399
or

763
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:24,000
were good pieces right regardless of the

764
00:34:28,129 --> 00:34:25,440
tactics you may disagree with the

765
00:34:29,329 --> 00:34:28,139
tactics he used right and there is a

766
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:29,339
great deal of controversy because

767
00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:32,580
essentially lately uh I think that what

768
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:34,260
they've been doing is baiting people

769
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:36,659
with dates and then they send a fake

770
00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:39,300
date in to get the guy talking the mark

771
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,540
the target I I understand it's a

772
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:44,639
controversial method but if it gets the

773
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:47,220
truth out of those people I support any

774
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:49,500
any and all things like that but being

775
00:34:53,329 --> 00:34:51,179
fired from Apple

776
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,339
the company he founded

777
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:55,440
quote the heaviness of being successful

778
00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:57,300
was replaced by the lightness of being a

779
00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,099
beginner again

780
00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:01,619
less sure about everything freed me to

781
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:03,000
enter one of the most this video looks

782
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:04,800
like a Taliban hostage video so back

783
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,180
then I trudged on

784
00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:08,640
from the back of a stretch limo in BC

785
00:35:12,349 --> 00:35:10,920
two guys I was on federal probation so I

786
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:12,359
couldn't be there but two of my

787
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,820
volunteers

788
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:16,380
dressed like Muslim Brotherhood

789
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,820
fundamentalist armed with hidden cameras

790
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:20,640
project redis was born again in 2011.

791
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:23,460
for a second time a couple of donors

792
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:26,220
eventually became 100 000 donors present

793
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:28,740
day 13 years later

794
00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:31,320
after almost a decade and a half of 85

795
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:33,960
hour work weeks yeah I mentioned that

796
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,200
this guy works 80 hour work weeks and by

797
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,640
the way I know somebody who worked there

798
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,800
for a time and they said that he lived

799
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:42,960
in that office and he never stopped

800
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:45,240
working I don't know if that's true but

801
00:35:48,829 --> 00:35:46,380
that's what I was told sometimes

802
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:48,839
traveling 300 days a year

803
00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:51,240
I am on the road packing multiple

804
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:53,220
meetings in a day

805
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:54,960
and plenty of Blood Sweat and Tears the

806
00:35:58,370 --> 00:35:56,339
likes of which I could never have

807
00:36:00,650 --> 00:35:58,380
possibly fathomed

808
00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:00,660
yeah that I haven't heard just send me

809
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:03,240
email me that do you have evidence of

810
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:04,920
that external threats

811
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:07,740
and pressure inflicted against myself

812
00:36:12,349 --> 00:36:10,020
and some of us has been unimaginable I'm

813
00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:12,359
going to summarize them

814
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:14,339
handcuffed by the FBI in two separate

815
00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:16,260
occasions I don't know if it was having

816
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,119
my phones confiscated and private

817
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:19,760
information linked to the New York Times

818
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:22,020
being placed on effective house arrest

819
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:24,180
for three years between

820
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,599
May of 2010 and may of 2013 being sued

821
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,280
dozens of times being served two

822
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:31,200
separate criminal grand jury Supreme is

823
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:32,820
in New Hampshire you're gonna blame me

824
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:35,339
because I I wasn't aware of that pursue

825
00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:38,040
that a high school chase by a New Jersey

826
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,470
this is why we don't see see look just

827
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:47,520
because you disagree with me on one

828
00:36:55,609 --> 00:36:50,880
issue of one story but it's okay I mean

829
00:37:00,170 --> 00:36:58,190
now if I was covering this and going

830
00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:00,180
after him and calling him a scammer

831
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,140
which I don't I haven't seen evidence of

832
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:06,720
I think more people would jump ship but

833
00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:09,180
you know this is the bouncing act like

834
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:11,160
what am I supposed to do

835
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:13,079
you can't please all the people all the

836
00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:15,720
time sorry you're upset you know we

837
00:37:19,550 --> 00:37:17,700
could do a part two if I find that

838
00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:19,560
information and find it to be credible

839
00:37:25,250 --> 00:37:22,920
but so far all I've seen is a list of uh

840
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,260
really ridiculous things that people

841
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:27,359
have said like he tried to steal a

842
00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:30,599
sandwich from pregnant people or that he

843
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,180
raised his voice at employees anytime

844
00:37:36,829 --> 00:37:35,280
suffered through mediation with

845
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:36,839
insurance companies where they had all

846
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:39,240
of our emails and everything

847
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,920
but they evidently didn't have anything

848
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,680
on me yeah I agree getting my home

849
00:37:49,069 --> 00:37:46,560
raided by the FBI

850
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:49,079
having my loved ones put in handcuffs in

851
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:50,579
the hallway and having our office

852
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:53,160
destroyed by a hurricane literally a

853
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,660
hurricane

854
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:56,640
yeah I agree which forced us into a

855
00:38:02,270 --> 00:37:59,520
temporary workplace before rebuilding

856
00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:02,280
and stirred up disgruntled employees

857
00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:05,339
including grievances about me which I

858
00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:06,740
will get to in a minute

859
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:08,760
let's go through the whole list of

860
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:10,920
grievances even so as a former board

861
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:13,079
member told me 10 years ago project

862
00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:15,000
iratos will never be stopped from the

863
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,020
outside

864
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:18,000
it will only be because we stopped

865
00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:19,740
ourselves right

866
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:21,660
I'll get to that too in a minute

867
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:24,300
prophetic as it may be that is exactly

868
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:26,040
where we find ourselves in the situation

869
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,540
today

870
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:29,280
a situation where I've been stripped of

871
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,560
my authority as CEO

872
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,119
and removed from the board of directors

873
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,040
I bet you didn't know that I'll get to

874
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:36,960
that in a minute

875
00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:39,359
and you know I don't know if you've ever

876
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,640
worked in an office where like somebody

877
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:43,920
major got fired and then they had to

878
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:46,680
explain it to you that's very very

879
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:49,140
I worked at some I worked at some

880
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:51,000
corporate cubicle Land one time where

881
00:38:56,450 --> 00:38:53,400
the big boss got fired for trying to

882
00:38:59,470 --> 00:38:56,460
bang all the uh just out of college

883
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,480
girls and he was like 60 and he kept he

884
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,920
literally sexually harassed like 12

885
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:04,320
different women and they had to get us

886
00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:07,200
all in the in this big room and like

887
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,200
explain to us that he was gone and why

888
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:12,320
he was leaving and why

889
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,000
and trying to like squash the rumors

890
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:17,040
that they were telling us like we don't

891
00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:18,900
want to uh you know you don't want to

892
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:21,540
spread false information so it's best

893
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:23,820
just not to talk about the allegations

894
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,480
and meanwhile dude I had like 10 of

895
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:29,760
those 12 chicks tell me everything that

896
00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:32,760
guy tried to do to them it was creepy uh

897
00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:34,859
but it's this feels like that like

898
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:37,800
imagine everybody's sitting there well

899
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,200
he's like they threw me out you didn't

900
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:43,440
know that did you this is terrible

901
00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:45,540
contrary to what public statements may

902
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:47,640
say

903
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:49,560
and by the way I have copies for this I

904
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:51,000
will not give them to you yet I will

905
00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:52,740
give them to you after I'm done yeah no

906
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:00,170
James O'Keefe indefinitely suspended as

907
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,540
CEO without compensation February 10th

908
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,160
yes

909
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,680
quote in definitely they not only took

910
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:09,540
away his power

911
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:12,780
and his role as CEO they took away his

912
00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:14,040
paycheck

913
00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:16,380
his company credit card and more it's

914
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:18,260
all right here right

915
00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:21,119
he redacted who was in favor and who was

916
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:23,540
opposed but it passed three to two

917
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:26,220
indefinite suspension of Mr O'Keefe from

918
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:27,720
the board pending the results of a

919
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:29,940
two-dimensional audit

920
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,980
definite suspension of James O'Keefe

921
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,119
from the board

922
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:35,520
dated February 10th five days before the

923
00:40:41,210 --> 00:40:38,280
statement saying that I'm still the CEO

924
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,220
I don't know why this is happening

925
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:43,440
wow or specifically why this is

926
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:46,260
happening suddenly right now

927
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:48,540
as you know at the helm of veritas I've

928
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,780
never allowed or entertained speculation

929
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,240
I only report the facts I think you know

930
00:40:58,370 --> 00:40:56,880
this you're you're involved in hiring

931
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:58,380
but don't you know that so many people

932
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:00,180
want to go beyond the facts

933
00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:02,280
I'm adamant that I'm only going to stick

934
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,540
to the facts

935
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:04,800
uh-oh

936
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:06,540
yeah and by the way I just want to

937
00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:08,820
comment on what Mr Fish said we we have

938
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:10,740
a free speech Zone here and people are

939
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:14,220
free to agree or disagree as long as

940
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,200
they do so respectfully and I would have

941
00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:18,720
shared that information on my screen if

942
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:20,520
he emailed it to me and we could talk

943
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:22,260
about that

944
00:41:26,450 --> 00:41:22,800
um

945
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:26,460
but you know one might question if he

946
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:28,320
spent fourteen thousand dollars but he

947
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,660
was responsible for raising Millions is

948
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:33,359
that really a fireable offense did they

949
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,920
give him an opportunity to put that

950
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,960
money back from his personal funds or

951
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:38,880
you know there's a lot it's it's more

952
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:42,000
complicated than just oh he's a scammer

953
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:44,280
because he took some money that you know

954
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:46,200
and I by the way I haven't seen that

955
00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:47,460
information

956
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:50,940
at all so but we we would certainly

957
00:41:55,609 --> 00:41:53,880
share that and talk about it and and I

958
00:41:57,770 --> 00:41:55,619
you know I hate that if somebody is that

959
00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:57,780
uh I guess

960
00:42:02,990 --> 00:41:59,640
black and white that they're just going

961
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:03,000
to go this show host I disagree with

962
00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:04,920
them I'm on unsubscribing you know I'm

963
00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:06,900
sorry that you know I hate to see that

964
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:07,980
kind of stuff

965
00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:11,280
but uh we try to be fair here we would

966
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:13,260
do a part two like if if a whole bunch

967
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:15,000
of information comes out that he was

968
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,160
spending money that didn't that he

969
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:18,720
shouldn't have or something and they

970
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:21,000
really had real cause but I've seen some

971
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:22,320
of the paperwork of what their

972
00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:23,820
complaints against him were and I didn't

973
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:26,460
see anything like that all right maybe

974
00:42:31,609 --> 00:42:29,460
I'm in error and people often and are

975
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:31,619
free to correct me and we'll talk about

976
00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:33,420
it and share it

977
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:36,359
I'm I'm not my mind is not 100 made up

978
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:38,820
yeah sure there may be some real good

979
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:40,980
reasons but I haven't seen them for why

980
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:43,380
they're asking them so much so that

981
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,000
sometimes we don't hire people if they

982
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:46,800
want to pontificate and opine about

983
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:48,839
what's going on in society

984
00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:50,460
and I've had people leave because they

985
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,870
fortunately I have recordings and

986
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:59,040
documents to back up everything I'm

987
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:00,420
about to tell you

988
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:03,480
have documentation

989
00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:04,980
and proof

990
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,420
so you don't have to say I wasn't there

991
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:08,640
yeah you can listen yeah I agree thank

992
00:43:12,349 --> 00:43:10,920
you for our adventures with stone Hobbit

993
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:12,359
good to see you here

994
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:14,280
and good to see solar Marshall is back

995
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:22,250
so yeah he's got good attorneys he

996
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:23,400
really about a quarter of the way

997
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,740
through here

998
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,599
with me he said it was going to take 15

999
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:30,000
minutes last 13 years I've been the same

1000
00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:32,040
person I've always been probably Better

1001
00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:34,140
Than I Used to Be

1002
00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:37,619
um these are absolutely tough uh hard

1003
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:39,000
charging

1004
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,420
uh driven creative exacting I have

1005
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:44,520
extremely high standards and somewhat

1006
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:47,520
disorganized I don't ask you how your

1007
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:49,800
Thanksgiving was okay

1008
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:53,220
or the names of your siblings although a

1009
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:54,839
good leader probably should I don't do

1010
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,619
that

1011
00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:58,079
I ask a lot of you a lot of you but I

1012
00:44:02,809 --> 00:43:59,640
don't ever ask you to do anything I

1013
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,819
haven't myself done and continue to do

1014
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,079
I haven't always been the most

1015
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,960
compassionate leader

1016
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:08,880
um and that is admittedly a fault of

1017
00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:10,140
mine

1018
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:12,119
something I need to work on but I

1019
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:13,560
remember when I was back in the Carriage

1020
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:14,760
House in the beginning there was a

1021
00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:15,960
journalist in the beginning and he

1022
00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:17,460
pointed this out to me so you need to be

1023
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:18,839
more compassionate taught asking about

1024
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:20,040
my life

1025
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:21,780
and it hurt him that I wasn't more

1026
00:44:25,309 --> 00:44:23,880
compassionate towards him personally I

1027
00:44:26,809 --> 00:44:25,319
told him it was difficult for me to

1028
00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:26,819
change myself

1029
00:44:32,270 --> 00:44:31,020
yeah and you know this is this is

1030
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:32,280
look for

1031
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:36,119
I'm not defending the guy being not very

1032
00:44:42,109 --> 00:44:40,079
personable but I'm sure everybody in the

1033
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:42,119
live chat let me know what you think in

1034
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:43,520
the comments

1035
00:44:50,210 --> 00:44:48,000
uh have you ever had a boss that was

1036
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,220
very impersonal with you and just didn't

1037
00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:52,800
care do you know what I mean like some

1038
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:55,560
bosses are just focused on work and they

1039
00:45:00,410 --> 00:44:57,780
don't you notice how he said somebody

1040
00:45:01,849 --> 00:45:00,420
was essentially somebody wasn't happy

1041
00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:01,859
because he didn't ask how their

1042
00:45:06,349 --> 00:45:04,859
Thanksgiving was you know he's focused

1043
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,359
on work he doesn't care how your

1044
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:07,980
Thanksgiving was you had the day off

1045
00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:10,920
right or whatever like I've had a boss

1046
00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:13,859
like that that was just not

1047
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,740
sociable or you know

1048
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,960
some people just lack

1049
00:45:23,569 --> 00:45:21,599
social skills and I see that you see

1050
00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:23,579
that a lot with people there's some

1051
00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:24,839
people that are on the Spectrum and

1052
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,700
they're undiagnosed that guy might have

1053
00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:28,560
Asperger's and just have social issues

1054
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:31,319
or whatever I don't think him being

1055
00:45:35,089 --> 00:45:33,540
impersonal with employees is grounds to

1056
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:35,099
fire him

1057
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,579
that's just my opinion and you know I

1058
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:40,560
I've also had bosses that were too

1059
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,980
personal or too sociable they talk to me

1060
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:45,839
all the time and they ask me personal

1061
00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:47,400
questions all the time and that made me

1062
00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:50,220
uncomfortable so I guess you need like a

1063
00:45:54,650 --> 00:45:52,980
certain scale right you should you

1064
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:54,660
should ask I guess

1065
00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:56,520
and that reminds me

1066
00:45:59,870 --> 00:45:58,020
you know I don't really have employees

1067
00:46:02,690 --> 00:45:59,880
but spooky helps here I should probably

1068
00:46:05,089 --> 00:46:02,700
ask spooky more about what's going on

1069
00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:05,099
with spooky that's a reminder to all of

1070
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:07,319
us if you work with people you probably

1071
00:46:12,170 --> 00:46:09,960
should at least try to be a little you

1072
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:12,180
know personal and sociable with them

1073
00:46:17,089 --> 00:46:14,460
because it's not all it shouldn't always

1074
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,099
be just the work in the mission and it

1075
00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:19,619
sure is for me it's spooky here so but

1076
00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:21,060
this experience stayed with me and I

1077
00:46:24,589 --> 00:46:22,859
always have known this about myself

1078
00:46:26,270 --> 00:46:24,599
I've tried to do a better job of that

1079
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:26,280
but the truth is I've been very hurried

1080
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,040
hurried very busy pressed for time every

1081
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:31,920
day trying to pack in so much in a day

1082
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,540
I think you all know this in meetings

1083
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,579
I'm busy because I'm trying to get so

1084
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,740
much done in an hour all the while

1085
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,599
moving at the speed of light to raise as

1086
00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:41,400
much money to hire more people to take

1087
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,500
care of you guys in a fundamental way

1088
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:45,119
although I may not be good at

1089
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:47,160
communicating the reasons why I am that

1090
00:46:50,990 --> 00:46:49,319
way I'm doing as much as I humanly

1091
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:51,000
possibly can so I could build this place

1092
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,160
out and do more now this is interesting

1093
00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:54,960
and that's what we did he shows the

1094
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,030
over the past decade O'Keefe has grown

1095
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:04,319
the nonprofit's revenue by more than 200

1096
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,420
percent and exposed malfeasance by

1097
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:08,640
organizations raising from Acorn to

1098
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:10,980
planned paranoid to Pfizer an impressive

1099
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:13,260
feat for a philosophy major from Rutgers

1100
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:16,260
I didn't know that he went to Rutgers

1101
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:17,940
um that's interesting

1102
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:23,400
2020 Revenue 22 million dollars

1103
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:26,520
2012 when he started 730 million I got

1104
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:28,859
to start a right-wing non-profit look at

1105
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:30,599
that 22 million dollars

1106
00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:33,240
but good for him you know I mean and

1107
00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:35,579
listen uh you know I'm a firm believer

1108
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:37,500
that if people believe in your cause

1109
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:40,200
they will help you we're a perfect

1110
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:44,160
example of it now uh I think I would

1111
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:46,500
wouldn't know what to do if we collected

1112
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,119
that kind of money even his starting

1113
00:47:51,050 --> 00:47:50,160
money like seven hundred thousand

1114
00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:51,060
dollars

1115
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:54,119
but it's still you know look we we have

1116
00:47:57,530 --> 00:47:55,619
supporters here from all over the world

1117
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:57,540
to throw a few bucks in our hat we're in

1118
00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:00,180
a we're on a tiny scale compared to him

1119
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,460
but I say good for him and and look at

1120
00:48:07,550 --> 00:48:05,040
how successful he has been at growing

1121
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:07,560
their revenue and growing their donors

1122
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:10,020
and their sponsors

1123
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,220
I think they're going to have a real

1124
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:13,200
hard time without them every year each

1125
00:48:18,109 --> 00:48:16,440
year since 2010

1126
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:18,119
growing every year sometimes doubling

1127
00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:20,280
our Revenue doubling our impact I have a

1128
00:48:24,609 --> 00:48:21,780
chart here which again I'm going to hand

1129
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:24,619
to you yeah a double difference

1130
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:27,900
every year just about I've never slowed

1131
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:29,700
down I recognize that perhaps I should

1132
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:31,859
but number one there's a trade-off to

1133
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:33,180
slowing down

1134
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:34,980
and number two

1135
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:36,839
um I need the right leaders around me in

1136
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,180
order to do that

1137
00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:40,800
so along the way there has been much

1138
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:42,780
turnover replacing people with better

1139
00:48:45,650 --> 00:48:43,680
people

1140
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:45,660
this was painful to me

1141
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:48,900
and to many of you who witnessed it but

1142
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:51,060
that has always been happening since day

1143
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:52,260
one

1144
00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:54,300
there was turnover 10 years ago when I

1145
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:56,339
had to fire a friend from college let's

1146
00:49:00,770 --> 00:48:58,200
just uh maybe hold off on that until the

1147
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:00,780
end so I'll make sure that everyone has

1148
00:49:05,329 --> 00:49:02,940
a copy of this

1149
00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:05,339
and I don't intend to publish this this

1150
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,220
is for you guys

1151
00:49:11,329 --> 00:49:09,599
I bet so that's leaking out because he's

1152
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:11,339
giving it to like 40 people somebody's

1153
00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:12,780
going to leak it if it isn't leaked

1154
00:49:15,849 --> 00:49:14,099
already

1155
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:15,859
um

1156
00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:17,640
all right

1157
00:49:20,809 --> 00:49:19,619
10 years ago I had to fire a friend from

1158
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:20,819
Rutgers

1159
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,619
that hurt me it took me months to get

1160
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:25,020
over this I never discussed this I felt

1161
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,579
for him but it was the conflict that ate

1162
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:28,440
at me but I had to do it

1163
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:30,300
see leadership as a price and results

1164
00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:34,140
often come at a human cost maybe fewer

1165
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:36,900
in this world present day

1166
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,300
are willing to pay that price many

1167
00:49:43,069 --> 00:49:40,800
people want the fruits of leadership

1168
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:43,079
such as its power

1169
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:46,560
and it's money right results

1170
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:48,780
Twitter followings

1171
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:54,470
but the price of the responsibilities

1172
00:49:58,730 --> 00:49:57,000
burdens trials hardships difficult

1173
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,740
decisions or just sheer suffering I

1174
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,240
don't think people want that

1175
00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:03,359
yeah and I I just wanted to mention that

1176
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,819
there was one time in my life when I

1177
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:07,920
worked in corporate cubicle land that I

1178
00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:10,980
got put in charge of like 50 people

1179
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:14,040
and I gotta tell you uh I wanted the

1180
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:18,720
paycheck but I was not prepared at all

1181
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,400
for that role or responsibility and I

1182
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:26,640
after a while I thought I made the wrong

1183
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:28,740
decision taking this so-called this was

1184
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:30,780
it didn't feel like a promotion to me

1185
00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:33,180
because

1186
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:35,160
I don't know maybe it was just the

1187
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:38,160
people working for me and it was all

1188
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:41,220
people everybody working for me was like

1189
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:43,079
one year out of college or something

1190
00:50:46,609 --> 00:50:45,000
like that like this was their first real

1191
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,619
job

1192
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:49,200
and it was a nightmare dealing with 50

1193
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:52,020
people that like

1194
00:50:57,470 --> 00:50:55,500
just a an absolute nightmare like all

1195
00:50:59,630 --> 00:50:57,480
the sad stories people calling out a

1196
00:51:01,010 --> 00:50:59,640
sick all the time and you and you have

1197
00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:01,020
to figure out how to cover for them or

1198
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,180
I'd have to answer their phone for them

1199
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:05,520
all day or like

1200
00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:09,300
I just decided like I don't I I didn't I

1201
00:51:14,569 --> 00:51:11,940
did not enjoy being a boss or a

1202
00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:14,579
supervisor because you know I can

1203
00:51:19,069 --> 00:51:16,980
control whether I show up and do what

1204
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:19,079
I'm supposed to do and get my work done

1205
00:51:25,250 --> 00:51:23,040
but try controlling 50 people showing up

1206
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,260
and getting their work done it was a

1207
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:27,599
nightmare so and that's the only

1208
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,160
experience or that was the biggest

1209
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:31,440
experience that I have being a boss of

1210
00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:33,960
people and and it was for a Fortune 500

1211
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:36,780
huge company and uh

1212
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:39,540
I I will never do it again never well

1213
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:42,359
I'll Never Say Never if the paycheck is

1214
00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:45,780
big enough maybe but I don't think so uh

1215
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:47,220
yeah I

1216
00:51:51,410 --> 00:51:49,200
I kind of understand what he's saying is

1217
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:51,420
like the it's difficult to be in a

1218
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,940
leadership position and then I don't

1219
00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:55,680
know about him but I experienced like

1220
00:51:59,690 --> 00:51:57,420
even though in that small scale just 50

1221
00:52:02,510 --> 00:51:59,700
people I was in charge of like

1222
00:52:05,569 --> 00:52:02,520
people hated me you know because I would

1223
00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:05,579
like you know have to crack the whip

1224
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,500
like what are you doing you were you

1225
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:09,359
were like on the internet for six hours

1226
00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:11,700
today and you didn't get your reports

1227
00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:15,780
done like and then I'm the bad guy like

1228
00:52:20,089 --> 00:52:18,059
I did not like being a boss I don't know

1229
00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:20,099
about him but from what I've seen he

1230
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,900
looked like he was a good leader because

1231
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,520
he's passionate and he really believes

1232
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:25,440
in the mission I don't know and all

1233
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:26,760
through the years things fundamentally

1234
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:28,440
continued on an upward trajectory for

1235
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:31,140
this place albeit turnover

1236
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:34,140
and I'm a hard guy to work for sometimes

1237
00:52:39,370 --> 00:52:36,359
we file our annual tax return yeah you

1238
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:39,380
want to talk about turnover

1239
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:42,180
after a while of that job where I was

1240
00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:44,579
people's bosses by the way I could make

1241
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,440
a decision to fire somebody but I didn't

1242
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:48,720
physically fire them like I didn't go

1243
00:52:52,609 --> 00:52:50,220
tell them you're fired get out somebody

1244
00:52:54,829 --> 00:52:52,619
else did that they would like walk over

1245
00:52:56,809 --> 00:52:54,839
somebody from Human Resources to go pull

1246
00:52:59,210 --> 00:52:56,819
them in a conference room and then I

1247
00:53:02,750 --> 00:52:59,220
would clean out their desk

1248
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:02,760
and give them a box you know but anyway

1249
00:53:05,809 --> 00:53:03,420
um

1250
00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:05,819
the turnover rate was so high that I

1251
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:07,559
felt like telling some of the some of

1252
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:10,200
the people that got a job in my section

1253
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:12,540
like don't tell me your name because you

1254
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:14,339
might not be here next week bro and I

1255
00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:16,740
don't want to waste the space give it a

1256
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:19,319
week if you last a week or two weeks

1257
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:22,380
I'll learn your name but until then you

1258
00:53:27,049 --> 00:53:24,300
know apparently he's had some high

1259
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,059
turnover too I can imagine that a lot of

1260
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:29,040
people think it would be a oh this is

1261
00:53:33,049 --> 00:53:30,660
going to be a great job working for this

1262
00:53:34,609 --> 00:53:33,059
you know thing I saw on the internet and

1263
00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:34,619
then when they get into it they don't do

1264
00:53:38,109 --> 00:53:36,200
well or whatever

1265
00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:38,119
it's it's

1266
00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:40,380
required by the IRS

1267
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,359
and my compensation is set by an

1268
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:44,400
independent board of directors via a

1269
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,490
um four times a year our Chief Financial

1270
00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,359
Officer has submitted company financials

1271
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:53,819
to the board that's every quarter

1272
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,920
and our board approves it in quarterly

1273
00:53:59,690 --> 00:53:57,839
meetings all three members of the C3

1274
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,700
were present and we have subjected both

1275
00:54:04,430 --> 00:54:01,920
the C3 and the C4 to audits from outside

1276
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,440
independent accounting agencies each and

1277
00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:06,480
every year that happens that has always

1278
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:08,579
been happening yeah and uh by the way

1279
00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:10,920
you hear how he just said that they

1280
00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:13,380
submit to an audit

1281
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:16,980
that's very important because if if he

1282
00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:18,780
knows that there's outside Auditors

1283
00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:21,780
every year I highly doubt that he is

1284
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:24,599
misusing funds right because he knows

1285
00:54:29,210 --> 00:54:27,420
somebody's going to catch that so I

1286
00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:29,220
don't know that I believe what that mess

1287
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,900
with that person said in a message

1288
00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:33,359
earlier that he's spending money that he

1289
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:35,819
shouldn't it's going to show up in an

1290
00:54:39,290 --> 00:54:36,839
audit

1291
00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:39,300
oh and thank you honey being Rusty for

1292
00:54:43,549 --> 00:54:42,180
kind and generous 449 Australian dollars

1293
00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:43,559
thank you for your kindness your

1294
00:54:49,809 --> 00:54:45,300
generosity and your support of the show

1295
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:52,430
all right

1296
00:55:02,750 --> 00:54:58,559
[Music]

1297
00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:02,760
yeah way too many money reports

1298
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:05,220
but the thing about audits is if a

1299
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:08,280
company if if people I I

1300
00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:10,980
fully support an audit I have one once a

1301
00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:12,380
year by my wife

1302
00:55:18,589 --> 00:55:15,420
she's an accountant and by the way it's

1303
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,599
tax time so if I'm in a really bad mood

1304
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:21,599
for a two weeks next month it's going to

1305
00:55:25,130 --> 00:55:23,700
be because I'm doing my taxes and she's

1306
00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:25,140
a stickler like I got to make

1307
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:26,900
spreadsheets and

1308
00:55:33,049 --> 00:55:30,900
it's a nightmare I can't imagine dealing

1309
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:33,059
with that kind of money and an audit

1310
00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:35,460
they track every penny an external

1311
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:37,500
auditing accounting firm will check

1312
00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:41,280
every dollar going in or out

1313
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,760
nothing about how I've conducted myself

1314
00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:46,559
over the past 13 years has really

1315
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:48,900
fundamentally changed

1316
00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:51,000
until now

1317
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:54,300
so what has changed in the last

1318
00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:00,829
what has changed

1319
00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:03,540
the only thing that has changed

1320
00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:05,160
is that we broke the biggest story in

1321
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:06,900
our organization's history

1322
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:09,119
yeah I find it a little suspicious that

1323
00:56:13,130 --> 00:56:11,099
right after they break the biggest story

1324
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:13,140
in the whole organization's history the

1325
00:56:16,490 --> 00:56:15,300
Pfizer story suddenly they want to get

1326
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:16,500
rid of him

1327
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,760
you know that one I'm talking about

1328
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:19,200
Pfizer

1329
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,540
the week the last week of January with

1330
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:24,180
50 million views that like broke the

1331
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:27,420
record by like 10x

1332
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:30,480
our video became a global phenomenon

1333
00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:32,700
it was about Pfizer and one of the

1334
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,160
directors discussing mutating the virus

1335
00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:37,440
our confrontation video where he locked

1336
00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:41,220
me in a future me to you and you and he

1337
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,780
smashed the equipment and called the

1338
00:56:49,069 --> 00:56:47,089
um that became a phenomenon and was

1339
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,079
riveting television for audiences glued

1340
00:56:53,930 --> 00:56:50,960
to their screens

1341
00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:53,940
that was that was quite a big story and

1342
00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:55,140
by the way

1343
00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:57,180
did anybody else think it was really

1344
00:57:01,250 --> 00:56:58,980
stupid for that guy to like he was like

1345
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:01,260
trying to smash the tablet as if they

1346
00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:04,680
didn't have another copy of the of the

1347
00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:06,300
video that they were showing him I

1348
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:08,040
probably might one of my favorite things

1349
00:57:11,569 --> 00:57:09,119
that ever happened

1350
00:57:13,549 --> 00:57:11,579
it was just really unbelievable it was

1351
00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:13,559
like

1352
00:57:17,930 --> 00:57:15,720
true true to be false and seemingly too

1353
00:57:19,849 --> 00:57:17,940
false to be true but it was real

1354
00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:19,859
if someone else is here you can let them

1355
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:21,240
in

1356
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:27,480
here so no they were they weren't

1357
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:28,859
recording illegally to the best of

1358
00:57:32,329 --> 00:57:30,960
myself so the only thing that changed

1359
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,339
were these videos outlets in Indian

1360
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:34,079
trying to cover the story

1361
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,880
and our social media exploded like never

1362
00:57:39,290 --> 00:57:37,680
before our employer all right just we're

1363
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,300
gonna take a moment because that's very

1364
00:57:43,549 --> 00:57:41,280
good question Daniel Foster

1365
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:43,559
um so what's going on is O'Keefe

1366
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:45,720
retiring ousted so journalists were

1367
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,480
recording illegally is that what Veritas

1368
00:57:51,609 --> 00:57:49,920
was that's illegal in California

1369
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,619
recording people without permission

1370
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,240
while they were recording in New York

1371
00:57:58,849 --> 00:57:57,119
and it's not illegal in New York uh for

1372
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,859
those unaware I'm very familiar with

1373
00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:00,720
this because I deal with it and I record

1374
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,680
people a lot I record a lot of people

1375
00:58:11,329 --> 00:58:06,720
during investigative work journalism

1376
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:11,339
work and I am very fortunate in that uh

1377
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,740
Daniel I live in a one-party consent

1378
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,319
State you mentioned California that's a

1379
00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:18,960
two-party consent state which means or

1380
00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:21,300
all party consent state which means in

1381
00:58:26,690 --> 00:58:23,099
some states you can't record anything

1382
00:58:30,349 --> 00:58:26,700
unless everybody in the recording is

1383
00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:30,359
notified and agrees to be recorded in

1384
00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:32,339
other states like New York and mine

1385
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:35,700
Pennsylvania only one party to the

1386
00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:37,859
recording has to consent and when I do

1387
00:58:43,490 --> 00:58:40,920
it I'm consenting to record the call

1388
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:43,500
and we have done we have busted a lot of

1389
00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:46,559
scammers Daniel Foster by recording them

1390
00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:50,099
and and you know do I use a little bit

1391
00:58:55,609 --> 00:58:53,220
of deception to do that sure sure I do

1392
00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:55,619
um but I think I do it ethically and I

1393
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:58,140
you know I buddy up to them I try to

1394
00:59:01,970 --> 00:59:00,359
build a rapport with them and and put

1395
00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:01,980
them at ease and then I ask them

1396
00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:04,200
questions that they would never answer

1397
00:59:08,930 --> 00:59:06,059
if they knew they were being recorded

1398
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:08,940
and then we broadcast some of that so

1399
00:59:12,890 --> 00:59:11,339
what's happening with O'Keefe nobody

1400
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,900
really knows there's he's going to talk

1401
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:14,640
about the list of grievances for why

1402
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:17,280
they they didn't fire him they removed

1403
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,880
him they removed his power as CEO and

1404
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:22,680
then asked him not to contact anybody in

1405
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:25,440
the company or their financial donors

1406
00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:28,799
and uh he came into the office to give

1407
00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:31,140
this speech and get his stuff and go uh

1408
00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:32,819
but he says he does say he's not

1409
00:59:37,849 --> 00:59:35,460
quitting and he's not retiring so I

1410
00:59:40,670 --> 00:59:37,859
think he's going to wait to see what

1411
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:40,680
what they uh

1412
00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:42,660
what they're gonna do like he's gonna

1413
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:44,819
make them fire him or something like

1414
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:45,780
that

1415
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,700
and board members Twitter accounts also

1416
00:59:55,970 --> 00:59:54,000
exploded like never before Pfizer even

1417
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:55,980
put out a non-denial denial like you

1418
00:59:59,390 --> 00:59:57,960
always capture these things were they

1419
01:00:01,730 --> 00:59:59,400
basically admitted they were mutating

1420
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,740
the virus albeit they buried this

1421
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:04,079
admission in jargon

1422
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,940
but it was still an admission

1423
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:07,980
and it was extraordinary that Pfizer

1424
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,040
responded to us with an admission not

1425
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:12,960
denying that this guy was who he was

1426
01:00:19,370 --> 01:00:16,079
what an amazing turn of events

1427
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:19,380
that is the only thing that's changed in

1428
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,380
13 years of me being who I am I agree

1429
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:24,660
with you and then suddenly

1430
01:00:31,609 --> 01:00:28,319
an unusual emergency happened just a few

1431
01:00:32,809 --> 01:00:31,619
days after that yes James they have to

1432
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:32,819
take one more person here if you could

1433
01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:34,740
let him in

1434
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:36,420
so suddenly

1435
01:00:45,530 --> 01:00:42,049
and I'm going to take you through this

1436
01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:45,540
yeah I agree Mr Fish I I do it some of

1437
01:00:50,510 --> 01:00:48,900
you don't know these things hello

1438
01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:50,520
we're talking about the story we broke

1439
01:00:55,250 --> 01:00:52,920
an unusual emergency happened on

1440
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,260
Thursday February 2nd

1441
01:00:59,690 --> 01:00:57,599
that's a few days after the Pfizer story

1442
01:01:01,370 --> 01:00:59,700
I was informed by an officer of project

1443
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,380
veritas

1444
01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:03,299
on the phone while en route to the

1445
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,660
airport he would resign unless I stepped

1446
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:08,760
down as CEO

1447
01:01:13,450 --> 01:01:10,680
we've been having a conflict of Visions

1448
01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:13,460
him and I over fundraising

1449
01:01:17,089 --> 01:01:15,240
fundraising here I guess no one from

1450
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:17,099
fundraising is here I don't know

1451
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:19,260
there were tactical disagreements about

1452
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:21,540
the boldness of approaches soliciting

1453
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:22,559
donations

1454
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:25,680
I was told and I'm paraphrasing by

1455
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:28,740
asking for X dollars right now you will

1456
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,099
prevent 10 x dollars down the road that

1457
01:01:37,069 --> 01:01:34,319
advice ran contrary to everything I knew

1458
01:01:40,609 --> 01:01:37,079
to be true in my 13 years of fundraising

1459
01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:40,619
yeah I I I I'm interested to see that

1460
01:01:46,730 --> 01:01:43,799
board members uh experience

1461
01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:46,740
with fundraising uh James O'Keefe has

1462
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,020
been the one making those decisions and

1463
01:01:52,849 --> 01:01:51,119
for 13 years he almost doubled their

1464
01:01:55,130 --> 01:01:52,859
revenue every year

1465
01:01:57,530 --> 01:01:55,140
uh well not every year but we saw the

1466
01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:57,540
chart many of the years he just about

1467
01:02:02,089 --> 01:01:59,880
doubled the amount of money that they

1468
01:02:04,190 --> 01:02:02,099
took in in sponsorships and the amount

1469
01:02:07,849 --> 01:02:04,200
of money that was donated to them

1470
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:07,859
and isn't it interesting that the uh the

1471
01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:09,599
board member is basically telling them

1472
01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:11,160
don't ask for a certain amount of money

1473
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:13,380
you might be able to get 10 times that

1474
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:15,960
if you don't ask for a certain amount so

1475
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,960
they're having a disagreement over you

1476
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:20,880
know how to do the fundraising and

1477
01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:23,280
meanwhile it has been James who has been

1478
01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:25,500
in charge of almost doubling their

1479
01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:27,780
revenue for many years during the past

1480
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:29,220
13 years

1481
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,619
I learned in business if somebody's

1482
01:02:35,030 --> 01:02:33,119
really good at something

1483
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:35,040
don't question them just let them do it

1484
01:02:38,569 --> 01:02:36,780
if they're being very successful at

1485
01:02:41,569 --> 01:02:38,579
something let them do it let them do it

1486
01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:41,579
get out of their way right

1487
01:02:43,970 --> 01:02:42,900
um but that conflict was even more

1488
01:02:45,710 --> 01:02:43,980
fundamental

1489
01:02:47,329 --> 01:02:45,720
and essentially boiled down to this and

1490
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:47,339
my vision I'm going to paraphrase Howard

1491
01:02:53,390 --> 01:02:50,220
Rourke the architect quote I don't have

1492
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:53,400
I don't build in order to have donors I

1493
01:02:58,010 --> 01:02:55,740
have donors in order to build

1494
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:58,020
that's what I believed and I felt like

1495
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:59,579
we had a conflict and it's interesting

1496
01:03:03,950 --> 01:03:01,619
that the uh that the board member he's

1497
01:03:06,589 --> 01:03:03,960
talking about threatened to quit if he

1498
01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:06,599
didn't step down as the CEO well he's

1499
01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:09,059
def he's not just a CEO he's the founder

1500
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:11,400
you know and this really does strike me

1501
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:14,640
like Steve Jobs getting fired from Apple

1502
01:03:20,210 --> 01:03:16,980
you know it's the same kind of a thing

1503
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:20,220
like Steve Jobs built apple and they

1504
01:03:23,690 --> 01:03:21,599
stabbed him in the back and threw them

1505
01:03:26,690 --> 01:03:23,700
out right then of course he got his

1506
01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:26,700
revenge years later like divisions we

1507
01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:28,440
don't measure our success only in terms

1508
01:03:32,329 --> 01:03:30,540
of how much money we bring in

1509
01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:32,339
we measure our success in terms of our

1510
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:34,200
impact remember acorn

1511
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:35,760
I don't think I raised a single dollar

1512
01:03:40,490 --> 01:03:37,680
off that I had a stack of media coverage

1513
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:40,500
to the ceiling we measure our success in

1514
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:43,440
terms of what we produce not just in

1515
01:03:46,670 --> 01:03:45,119
terms of our wallets

1516
01:03:48,770 --> 01:03:46,680
yeah that's that was a pretty

1517
01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:48,780
fundamental conflict I felt

1518
01:03:52,490 --> 01:03:51,000
the day prior right yeah I think it's

1519
01:03:54,589 --> 01:03:52,500
important if you're passionate about

1520
01:03:56,809 --> 01:03:54,599
what it is that your mission is like we

1521
01:03:58,370 --> 01:03:56,819
are we are I'm very passionate about

1522
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,380
what we do here

1523
01:04:02,930 --> 01:04:00,960
you you can't go well I wasn't

1524
01:04:04,849 --> 01:04:02,940
successful because I didn't raise X

1525
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,859
number of dollars this month you know to

1526
01:04:08,930 --> 01:04:05,760
be honest

1527
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:08,940
I'm happy that we pay all of the show's

1528
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,280
bills and and have a little bit of money

1529
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:13,680
for new equipment or whatever I consider

1530
01:04:17,870 --> 01:04:16,319
that the show's a total success you know

1531
01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:17,880
formed him in front of his colleagues

1532
01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:19,619
that he if he wasn't willing to follow

1533
01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:22,380
my lead he'd be shown the door

1534
01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:24,900
I tried to deal with it privately but I

1535
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:26,940
was unsuccessful and the disagreement

1536
01:04:31,849 --> 01:04:29,040
boiled over publicly in a staff meeting

1537
01:04:34,430 --> 01:04:31,859
the next day this individual refused to

1538
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,440
resign so I fired him

1539
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,960
whoa see that's what this is about this

1540
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:38,640
is about a board member and by the way

1541
01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:41,760
that board member got rehired after they

1542
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,140
did this to James

1543
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,599
later that same day that's Feb Thursday

1544
01:04:50,210 --> 01:04:47,760
February 2nd a few days after the 50

1545
01:04:51,950 --> 01:04:50,220
million view advisor videos I was

1546
01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:51,960
informed by a different officer of

1547
01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:54,240
project Veritas that he would go to the

1548
01:04:58,490 --> 01:04:56,099
board in a few hours from that moment

1549
01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:58,500
and have an emergency vote to

1550
01:05:02,150 --> 01:04:59,940
restructure this company

1551
01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:02,160
receiving an agenda in my email while I

1552
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:04,140
was sitting on an airplane tarmac with

1553
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:06,960
the doors closing the the meeting was

1554
01:05:09,950 --> 01:05:08,520
scheduled for the moment that my plane

1555
01:05:12,890 --> 01:05:09,960
landed in Nashville

1556
01:05:14,930 --> 01:05:12,900
it became clear to me in that moment I

1557
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:14,940
would be removed from my position at

1558
01:05:20,089 --> 01:05:17,700
project Veritas by the time I landed at

1559
01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:20,099
my destination that's something else and

1560
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,480
and you know what else is something else

1561
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,240
I wonder I I hope he gives some

1562
01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:26,160
interviews about all of this and names

1563
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:29,460
names like and talks about like how he

1564
01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:32,040
felt being stabbed in the back like this

1565
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,740
because he probably was responsible for

1566
01:05:39,170 --> 01:05:36,720
some of those people being hired and

1567
01:05:41,210 --> 01:05:39,180
brought on board as high-ranking members

1568
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:41,220
of this organization I bet you didn't

1569
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:43,079
know that and by the way one of the

1570
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:44,880
people who he fired or had the big

1571
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,220
disagreement with was the I'm not sure

1572
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,160
if he was the he was the CFO the Chief

1573
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,559
Financial Officer James fired him they

1574
01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,480
hired him back

1575
01:05:58,670 --> 01:05:57,000
I have a copy of the emergency meeting

1576
01:06:00,109 --> 01:05:58,680
here for you guys to take a look at it's

1577
01:06:02,030 --> 01:06:00,119
it's in writing you could read it you

1578
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:02,040
don't have to be there you can read the

1579
01:06:06,770 --> 01:06:03,420
minutes they're official board minutes

1580
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:08,569
my first question on the phone to this

1581
01:06:11,210 --> 01:06:09,359
guy

1582
01:06:13,609 --> 01:06:11,220
my colleague

1583
01:06:15,289 --> 01:06:13,619
as I was staring at this agenda when the

1584
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:15,299
stewardess was asking me to get off the

1585
01:06:20,809 --> 01:06:18,720
phone was quote what are we going to

1586
01:06:22,010 --> 01:06:20,819
tell our supporters if I'm removed from

1587
01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:22,020
my position

1588
01:06:24,890 --> 01:06:23,460
I think that's the first question I

1589
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:24,900
haven't had 100 questions but that was

1590
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:26,760
the first one yeah and by the way I've

1591
01:06:32,029 --> 01:06:29,099
seen literally hundreds of tweets on

1592
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:32,039
Twitter of people saying when I donate

1593
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,559
it to project Veritas I was donating to

1594
01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:36,000
James O'Keefe

1595
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:38,160
and I want my money back they're going

1596
01:06:41,809 --> 01:06:40,140
to have a real problem here my colleague

1597
01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:41,819
who is an officer of project Veritas

1598
01:06:48,109 --> 01:06:43,980
responded by saying our supporters

1599
01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:50,390
so they were going to keep his ousting

1600
01:06:55,730 --> 01:06:52,920
from the people donating the money

1601
01:06:57,289 --> 01:06:55,740
that's slimy and that's corrupt and

1602
01:07:00,109 --> 01:06:57,299
Shady sounds like something you would

1603
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:00,119
get in the clear mccaskill campaign it

1604
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:01,920
sounds like something you'd it sounds

1605
01:07:06,529 --> 01:07:04,559
like something you would expose I was so

1606
01:07:08,829 --> 01:07:06,539
shocked by this and again the stewardess

1607
01:07:11,089 --> 01:07:08,839
was asking me

1608
01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:11,099
I guess you could say that I was in a

1609
01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:12,539
state of complete shock for those that

1610
01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:14,099
are a little ignorant of corporate

1611
01:07:18,529 --> 01:07:16,260
structure or whatever the two most

1612
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:18,539
powerful people in an organization like

1613
01:07:25,309 --> 01:07:22,319
this or any business really is the CEO

1614
01:07:27,289 --> 01:07:25,319
and the CFO the CFO is the Chief

1615
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,299
Financial Officer he's the one who

1616
01:07:30,770 --> 01:07:29,520
controls all of the money and oversees

1617
01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:30,780
all of the money

1618
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:33,960
so in my experience in business having

1619
01:07:39,230 --> 01:07:36,180
worked for many different Fortune 500

1620
01:07:41,089 --> 01:07:39,240
well not many but a few Fortune 500 big

1621
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,099
corporations the two most powerful

1622
01:07:48,410 --> 01:07:43,440
people in those organizations

1623
01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:48,420
were the CEO and the CFO the Chief

1624
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:51,000
Financial Officer and since I worked in

1625
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:52,319
finance

1626
01:08:00,170 --> 01:07:56,000
um I kind of oh I've worked for several

1627
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:00,180
CFOs and controllers uh so it'd be the

1628
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:02,760
controller was right under him usually I

1629
01:08:09,289 --> 01:08:05,520
worked for the controller one step below

1630
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:09,299
who's one step below the CFO but

1631
01:08:14,990 --> 01:08:13,140
um I from what I saw the CFOs got I

1632
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,000
think they might have more power than

1633
01:08:19,130 --> 01:08:17,040
the CEO because they're the one holding

1634
01:08:20,990 --> 01:08:19,140
all the purse strings and if somebody

1635
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,000
wants to spend money on something that

1636
01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:23,279
he doesn't agree with he can stamp them

1637
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:24,900
out or get rid of them if it's in the

1638
01:08:31,729 --> 01:08:28,380
best fight he's his job a cfo's job is

1639
01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:31,739
to you know be the controller of the

1640
01:08:35,209 --> 01:08:32,699
money

1641
01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:35,219
and to always do what's in the best

1642
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:37,560
financial interests of the company and

1643
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:39,600
shareholders and that's where it gets

1644
01:08:44,450 --> 01:08:42,120
dicey you know

1645
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:44,460
how would our supporters not be informed

1646
01:08:49,070 --> 01:08:46,380
of such an enormous thing

1647
01:08:50,329 --> 01:08:49,080
it was a lapse and judgment so severe

1648
01:08:52,249 --> 01:08:50,339
that it was itself

1649
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,259
a fireable offense

1650
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,480
to make a statement like that

1651
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:57,359
it was a lapse in judgment so severe it

1652
01:09:02,990 --> 01:09:00,080
was it was impossible to hide my removal

1653
01:09:05,090 --> 01:09:03,000
to anybody

1654
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:05,100
as the CEO and chief fundraiser I have

1655
01:09:10,430 --> 01:09:07,259
to explain the context of my role for

1656
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:10,440
thousands of people my pleasure 300 days

1657
01:09:15,769 --> 01:09:13,319
a year on the road while soliciting them

1658
01:09:16,809 --> 01:09:15,779
for funds like an executive officer he

1659
01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:16,819
is

1660
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:24,540
the head of the board and the head of

1661
01:09:31,550 --> 01:09:27,600
the entire company or Organization for

1662
01:09:34,370 --> 01:09:31,560
example I'm the CEO of my company even

1663
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:34,380
though my company is tiny but I'm still

1664
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:37,679
the CEO on paper tasty crayon I'm the

1665
01:09:42,349 --> 01:09:39,719
Chief Executive Officer of a technology

1666
01:09:43,970 --> 01:09:42,359
company and Media company that produces

1667
01:09:45,229 --> 01:09:43,980
this content that you're watching right

1668
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:45,239
now

1669
01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:49,020
um I don't have a CFO uh but yeah it is

1670
01:09:54,169 --> 01:09:50,819
usually the boss the boss of the whole

1671
01:09:58,490 --> 01:09:54,179
company and very often the founder is

1672
01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:58,500
also by de facto becomes the chief

1673
01:10:02,930 --> 01:10:00,900
executive officer and in my experience

1674
01:10:04,250 --> 01:10:02,940
look what happens when people step down

1675
01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:04,260
from that role and give it to somebody

1676
01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:07,140
else the famous the most famous case of

1677
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:08,460
that is

1678
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:14,940
Steve Jobs famously uh hired a CEO who

1679
01:10:19,010 --> 01:10:17,580
was the former CEO of I think Coke or

1680
01:10:20,450 --> 01:10:19,020
something like that and he said do you

1681
01:10:21,649 --> 01:10:20,460
want to sell sugar water for the rest of

1682
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:21,659
your life or do you want to change the

1683
01:10:26,209 --> 01:10:23,880
world come with me and he hired the guy

1684
01:10:27,649 --> 01:10:26,219
who would eventually fire him that's

1685
01:10:29,149 --> 01:10:27,659
pretty interesting so you got to be very

1686
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:29,159
careful if you're the founder of an

1687
01:10:34,669 --> 01:10:32,400
organization and I think Mr O'Keefe here

1688
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:34,679
is probably rethinking some of his

1689
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:37,679
structure because he had a role in

1690
01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:39,060
designing the structure of the

1691
01:10:43,810 --> 01:10:41,699
organization and how power plays out and

1692
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:43,820
who can make decisions and he's probably

1693
01:10:48,169 --> 01:10:46,140
regretting some of those decisions now

1694
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:48,179
we have our supporters because you know

1695
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:50,580
I'm sure if he had if he had it all to

1696
01:10:55,970 --> 01:10:53,100
do over again he would remove these

1697
01:10:58,910 --> 01:10:55,980
people's ability to castrate him or take

1698
01:11:00,590 --> 01:10:58,920
away his power or take away his role as

1699
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,600
the leader of the organization donors

1700
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:02,640
would not like that change yeah and so

1701
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:04,260
what he's talking about is that they

1702
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:06,600
wanted to not tell the people giving

1703
01:11:10,370 --> 01:11:08,520
everybody giving this ordinance

1704
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:10,380
organization money that they were

1705
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:12,600
removing the person that most people are

1706
01:11:18,649 --> 01:11:14,580
donating to the face of the project

1707
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,659
Veritas and then the worldwide leader of

1708
01:11:21,950 --> 01:11:20,159
that organization they were just going

1709
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:21,960
to not tell the donors

1710
01:11:27,470 --> 01:11:25,320
because that might affect their uh you

1711
01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:27,480
know Financial Outlook if people knew

1712
01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:28,860
that they were removing him people would

1713
01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:30,840
stop donating and I'm sure most people

1714
01:11:34,490 --> 01:11:32,340
have stopped donating

1715
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:34,500
if I was removed from the chief decision

1716
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:36,900
maker at the organization I founded

1717
01:11:40,729 --> 01:11:38,820
I share who we are our vision our

1718
01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:40,739
structure our strategy with everybody in

1719
01:11:44,570 --> 01:11:42,960
fact hiding something so fundamental

1720
01:11:46,669 --> 01:11:44,580
from people is something that we stand

1721
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:46,679
against in principle particularly with

1722
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:49,679
the amount of scrutiny that we're under

1723
01:11:53,630 --> 01:11:51,659
the door is closed the plane took off

1724
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:53,640
but somehow

1725
01:11:56,689 --> 01:11:55,320
over the next few hours I was able to

1726
01:11:58,189 --> 01:11:56,699
convince the board to push this

1727
01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:58,199
emergency meeting to that Monday

1728
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:01,080
February the 6th yeah at least let me

1729
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:02,580
attend the meeting where you're going to

1730
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,600
fire me

1731
01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:06,239
I you know after all I'm the one who's

1732
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:08,280
everybody's donating to and found at

1733
01:12:15,130 --> 01:12:10,679
this organization the very next day and

1734
01:12:21,410 --> 01:12:18,709
so fasten your seat belts

1735
01:12:24,350 --> 01:12:21,420
the very next day on Friday this is now

1736
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:24,360
Friday February 3rd a board member

1737
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,420
reached out to one of our journalists

1738
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,520
and stated quote

1739
01:12:33,470 --> 01:12:31,679
you get a raise if there is a

1740
01:12:35,149 --> 01:12:33,480
restructure without James O'Keefe at

1741
01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:35,159
project Veritas

1742
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:37,800
I have a copy of the text message

1743
01:12:45,410 --> 01:12:43,070
wow I've redacted the name of the

1744
01:12:46,729 --> 01:12:45,420
journalist that's something else so the

1745
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,739
people who are trying to get rid of

1746
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,719
James are going around telling people if

1747
01:12:53,689 --> 01:12:50,400
you vote with us you're going to get a

1748
01:12:55,850 --> 01:12:53,699
raise so they're bribing people to get

1749
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:55,860
rid of the CEO and founder of the

1750
01:13:03,890 --> 01:12:58,320
organization I would consider that a

1751
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,770
the board member deleted the message but

1752
01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:08,159
not before our journalist took

1753
01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:14,450
good job journalists

1754
01:13:19,490 --> 01:13:17,570
on Sunday February 5th now that's Sunday

1755
01:13:22,010 --> 01:13:19,500
two days after the Friday

1756
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:22,020
a board member requested my presence at

1757
01:13:27,050 --> 01:13:24,239
his home oh that's great come to my

1758
01:13:29,149 --> 01:13:27,060
house let's have a meeting

1759
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:29,159
he informed me quote

1760
01:13:34,970 --> 01:13:32,640
you had nothing to do James with this

1761
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:34,980
Pfizer story unquote

1762
01:13:40,430 --> 01:13:38,280
perplexed by this I took out my iPad and

1763
01:13:42,050 --> 01:13:40,440
showed him a video of myself confronting

1764
01:13:44,090 --> 01:13:42,060
the Pfizer executive which had 11

1765
01:13:45,410 --> 01:13:44,100
million views on YouTube yeah he

1766
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,420
responds

1767
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,520
but that was after the undercover video

1768
01:13:52,610 --> 01:13:50,159
had already been done unquote

1769
01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:52,620
I pointed out that the brave journalist

1770
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:54,060
and many of you know who this person is

1771
01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:56,040
I'm not going to name anyone who

1772
01:13:59,630 --> 01:13:57,420
recorded the interaction with someone

1773
01:14:03,110 --> 01:13:59,640
that I had to sit down over a year prior

1774
01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:03,120
remember over dinner for hours

1775
01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:05,580
talking off the proverbial ledge

1776
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:07,980
insisting he take the long arduous road

1777
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:10,920
to get the story about Pfizer and indeed

1778
01:14:16,729 --> 01:14:13,320
he did now that's an interesting thing

1779
01:14:18,890 --> 01:14:16,739
from a Content Creator's perspective so

1780
01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:18,900
in order to get that story they were

1781
01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:21,000
planning it and working on it a year

1782
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:23,699
before the story broke

1783
01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:25,920
um you know and I don't have any long

1784
01:14:31,490 --> 01:14:29,300
games that long but I will say this

1785
01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:31,500
sometimes when we do one of those

1786
01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:34,500
investigative stories I I've been at it

1787
01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:36,840
for months before I broadcast it you

1788
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:38,460
know it takes a tremendous amount of

1789
01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:40,500
planning time investigatory work

1790
01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:43,620
research background planning it's very

1791
01:14:47,930 --> 01:14:46,260
difficult and uh that's interesting so

1792
01:14:50,810 --> 01:14:47,940
they were planning and working on that

1793
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:50,820
Pfizer story for a year before before it

1794
01:14:56,689 --> 01:14:53,400
was broadcaster before they you know got

1795
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:56,699
the goods and and and broadcasted the

1796
01:15:00,590 --> 01:14:59,280
story The Board member responding to me

1797
01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:00,600
saying that

1798
01:15:04,669 --> 01:15:02,880
said he did not know that

1799
01:15:07,790 --> 01:15:04,679
and admitted that another board member

1800
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:07,800
was persuading him to the contrary yep

1801
01:15:11,450 --> 01:15:09,719
damage control tactics in the meeting

1802
01:15:13,490 --> 01:15:11,460
that's now the we're fast forwarding to

1803
01:15:15,229 --> 01:15:13,500
Monday two weeks ago that's a lot that's

1804
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,239
on the sixth I offered an apology letter

1805
01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:17,760
to the board for my tone of voice in the

1806
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,860
office at the leadership meeting the

1807
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:21,120
week before

1808
01:15:25,729 --> 01:15:23,360
that I intended to also share that

1809
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:25,739
apology for my tone of voice with our

1810
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,940
staff

1811
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:29,040
but the board refused to accept my

1812
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:30,239
apology

1813
01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:33,600
nor believed that it was sincere they

1814
01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:35,580
also did not support my sending it to

1815
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,320
the staff

1816
01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:39,120
I imagine many of you didn't even know

1817
01:15:44,810 --> 01:15:42,420
that I drafted an apology

1818
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:44,820
then I was subject to a six and a half

1819
01:15:50,270 --> 01:15:46,980
hour listing of grievances

1820
01:15:52,850 --> 01:15:50,280
which included taking black cars to

1821
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,470
I don't know the significance of the

1822
01:15:58,130 --> 01:15:55,920
color of the vehicle

1823
01:16:00,590 --> 01:15:58,140
and taking a few Charter Jets over the

1824
01:16:01,430 --> 01:16:00,600
years to pack multiple PV meetings in a

1825
01:16:02,990 --> 01:16:01,440
day

1826
01:16:04,370 --> 01:16:03,000
one of those Jets I think we had a

1827
01:16:05,890 --> 01:16:04,380
meeting in New York Wisconsin and

1828
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:05,900
California in the same day and it

1829
01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:09,840
Bennett raised two million dollars

1830
01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:12,780
but the revenue part was omitted yeah

1831
01:16:15,950 --> 01:16:14,040
that's interesting

1832
01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:15,960
there was also some truth so he he

1833
01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:19,020
they're accusing him of oh he he wasted

1834
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,500
money on a chartering a private jet but

1835
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:24,960
if if you Charter a private jet for 25

1836
01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:27,120
grand for the day but you raised two

1837
01:16:31,550 --> 01:16:29,820
million dollars for the organization I

1838
01:16:33,050 --> 01:16:31,560
would say that that is money well spent

1839
01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:33,060
and

1840
01:16:38,570 --> 01:16:35,400
anybody would agree with me anybody with

1841
01:16:40,729 --> 01:16:38,580
a brain right sometimes you really do

1842
01:16:42,410 --> 01:16:40,739
have to spend money to make money and if

1843
01:16:44,410 --> 01:16:42,420
he had to do those meetings all in one

1844
01:16:47,090 --> 01:16:44,420
day or whatever to get that donor money

1845
01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:47,100
I would say that was money well spent

1846
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:51,000
it's it it looked to me with this list

1847
01:16:54,830 --> 01:16:52,800
of grievances like they were just cherry

1848
01:16:57,169 --> 01:16:54,840
picking anything they could to make him

1849
01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:57,179
look like a bad person or a bad leader

1850
01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:59,580
or fiscally irresponsible

1851
01:17:04,430 --> 01:17:01,620
yeah I don't know truly bizarre

1852
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:04,440
grievances including my failure to

1853
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,790
and an allegation that I stole a

1854
01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:12,719
pregnant woman sandwich

1855
01:17:19,850 --> 01:17:17,689
there were also discussions from a few

1856
01:17:21,530 --> 01:17:19,860
staffers with donors in the boardroom

1857
01:17:24,770 --> 01:17:21,540
donors were listening to some of this

1858
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:24,780
this is how ridiculous it got

1859
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:28,500
they accused him of stealing or taking a

1860
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,140
sandwich off of a pregnant woman

1861
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:33,679
and you know look

1862
01:17:38,270 --> 01:17:36,960
no matter if you hate this guy do you

1863
01:17:40,130 --> 01:17:38,280
really think that he's going to just

1864
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:40,140
walk up to a pregnant woman and steal

1865
01:17:46,430 --> 01:17:43,380
her sandwich like this is so ridiculous

1866
01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:46,440
he stole a sandwich from a pregnant

1867
01:17:51,290 --> 01:17:48,300
woman

1868
01:17:52,669 --> 01:17:51,300
they are we're looking for reasons to

1869
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:52,679
vilify him

1870
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:54,960
to make him look like a bad person a bad

1871
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:56,880
leader or whatever

1872
01:18:01,370 --> 01:17:59,280
I think this is all about greed they all

1873
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:01,380
want to get into that money and he was

1874
01:18:06,590 --> 01:18:03,199
not going to let them waste money on

1875
01:18:07,970 --> 01:18:06,600
anything other than his mission and some

1876
01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:07,980
of these were sent directly to donors

1877
01:18:12,890 --> 01:18:10,620
without my consent donors who have no

1878
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:12,900
knowledge of my personal life and have

1879
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:15,360
no business asking questions about my

1880
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,760
personal life about girls I've dated in

1881
01:18:22,189 --> 01:18:19,920
the past

1882
01:18:24,169 --> 01:18:22,199
a fundraising colleague

1883
01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:24,179
relayed and again this is going to start

1884
01:18:27,649 --> 01:18:25,620
getting really

1885
01:18:29,149 --> 01:18:27,659
strange but I'm

1886
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:29,159
this this board meeting was video

1887
01:18:33,169 --> 01:18:30,960
recorded

1888
01:18:35,090 --> 01:18:33,179
we'll get to that in a minute

1889
01:18:37,790 --> 01:18:35,100
a fundraising staff are relayed quote

1890
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:37,800
concerns about my behaviors regarding

1891
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:40,560
videos where I quote literally chased a

1892
01:18:50,270 --> 01:18:47,570
by acclimation from all of you in 2022

1893
01:18:52,010 --> 01:18:50,280
that video about the Twitter Chase was

1894
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:52,020
one of the most successful

1895
01:18:56,830 --> 01:18:53,699
videos

1896
01:19:00,350 --> 01:18:56,840
but yet your colleagues in a board room

1897
01:19:02,209 --> 01:19:00,360
for expressing concerns about it somehow

1898
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:02,219
every board member previously

1899
01:19:06,890 --> 01:19:04,380
communicated their love of that video

1900
01:19:09,169 --> 01:19:06,900
right none pushed back in that moment

1901
01:19:11,209 --> 01:19:09,179
when the staff were criticized it

1902
01:19:13,970 --> 01:19:11,219
why

1903
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:13,980
I re the attacks were so severe against

1904
01:19:17,570 --> 01:19:15,780
me personally in that boardroom and

1905
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:17,580
again this is all video recorded and I

1906
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,560
suggest that you ask for that I will not

1907
01:19:24,169 --> 01:19:21,600
provide that to you

1908
01:19:26,330 --> 01:19:24,179
this the attacks were so severe thank

1909
01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:26,340
you Julia that one board member asked

1910
01:19:29,870 --> 01:19:28,620
quote is there anything James O'Keefe is

1911
01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:29,880
good at

1912
01:19:34,490 --> 01:19:32,040
oh

1913
01:19:36,169 --> 01:19:34,500
that's what your board member said

1914
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:36,179
oh and by the way this meeting was video

1915
01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:37,679
recorded I'm going to keep saying that

1916
01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:40,020
you may want to ask existing board

1917
01:19:43,850 --> 01:19:41,400
members if they want to share that

1918
01:19:45,709 --> 01:19:43,860
entire video with you I suggest you

1919
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:45,719
request the entire

1920
01:19:50,930 --> 01:19:48,900
seven hour or so video I wonder if the

1921
01:19:53,149 --> 01:19:50,940
board members are standing off to his

1922
01:19:54,649 --> 01:19:53,159
right and he is like really trolling

1923
01:19:56,209 --> 01:19:54,659
them and they're standing off in the

1924
01:19:59,390 --> 01:19:56,219
corner while he's given this speech

1925
01:20:01,370 --> 01:19:59,400
that's interesting though that meeting

1926
01:20:03,290 --> 01:20:01,380
where they were berating him and talking

1927
01:20:05,930 --> 01:20:03,300
about his personal life and all of his

1928
01:20:07,729 --> 01:20:05,940
sins for the past 13 years was recorded

1929
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,739
that's going to leak to see for yourself

1930
01:20:12,410 --> 01:20:10,080
what actually happened you don't have to

1931
01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:12,420
have been there you simply need to watch

1932
01:20:18,410 --> 01:20:15,540
the video and hear all of the testimony

1933
01:20:20,990 --> 01:20:18,420
after the six hours I was asked what I

1934
01:20:23,209 --> 01:20:21,000
had to say for myself

1935
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,219
they could have been I was given about

1936
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,920
10 seconds to respond

1937
01:20:28,850 --> 01:20:27,360
and then I was dismissed wouldn't

1938
01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:28,860
surprise me but I didn't see any

1939
01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:30,600
evidence of that to be honest girl next

1940
01:20:34,910 --> 01:20:32,340
door then and I'm reading from board

1941
01:20:36,649 --> 01:20:34,920
minutes drafted by lawyers who are

1942
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:36,659
taking a record of what the board member

1943
01:20:41,090 --> 01:20:38,880
said and did a vote was called to strip

1944
01:20:42,729 --> 01:20:41,100
me of all of my authority and decision

1945
01:20:45,530 --> 01:20:42,739
making at this organization

1946
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:45,540
thanks for being a member that's 180

1947
01:20:48,169 --> 01:20:46,260
days

1948
01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:48,179
again it's in the board minutes you'll

1949
01:20:52,729 --> 01:20:50,340
have a copy of it it says quote the

1950
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:52,739
CEO's ability to make these decisions

1951
01:20:57,169 --> 01:20:55,620
suspended for 180 days with such power

1952
01:20:59,090 --> 01:20:57,179
transferred to the executive director

1953
01:21:01,070 --> 01:20:59,100
the executive director reports to the

1954
01:21:03,770 --> 01:21:01,080
board the CEO is placed on leave for two

1955
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:03,780
weeks and the CEO's access to donors is

1956
01:21:11,209 --> 01:21:06,719
restricted so I can't talk to donors I

1957
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,570
see and they essentially replaced him

1958
01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:16,800
as the person who runs the organization

1959
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:19,380
with the director who was probably just

1960
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:22,400
under him like a second in charge person

1961
01:21:26,990 --> 01:21:25,800
CEO is placed oh he got placed on paid

1962
01:21:33,169 --> 01:21:27,000
leave

1963
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:33,179
correction

1964
01:21:38,330 --> 01:21:35,040
okay

1965
01:21:40,490 --> 01:21:38,340
my first question before I was dismissed

1966
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,500
I asked how the remaining team will

1967
01:21:43,610 --> 01:21:42,239
manage the company and what the plan was

1968
01:21:45,050 --> 01:21:43,620
that's something you you had essentially

1969
01:21:47,149 --> 01:21:45,060
what's the plan

1970
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:47,159
but they didn't provide one

1971
01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:49,920
it was clear they didn't actually have

1972
01:21:53,209 --> 01:21:50,940
one

1973
01:21:55,790 --> 01:21:53,219
yeah they do have a plan they just want

1974
01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:55,800
to get rid of him apparently

1975
01:22:02,450 --> 01:21:58,320
and then I was dismissed

1976
01:22:04,430 --> 01:22:02,460
so I went off the grid as requested

1977
01:22:05,689 --> 01:22:04,440
went hiking with Kennedy in the

1978
01:22:07,729 --> 01:22:05,699
mountains

1979
01:22:09,470 --> 01:22:07,739
within a few days of going off the grid

1980
01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:09,480
I started receiving missed calls and

1981
01:22:13,970 --> 01:22:11,100
texts from the same board members and

1982
01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:13,980
officers who demanded I'd be gone

1983
01:22:18,770 --> 01:22:15,900
they informed the staff they're waiting

1984
01:22:22,250 --> 01:22:18,780
to hear from me I found that odd there

1985
01:22:26,510 --> 01:22:22,260
was a corporate resolution demanding

1986
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:26,520
that I be gone for two weeks I was a

1987
01:22:30,590 --> 01:22:27,600
little worried about violating the

1988
01:22:32,930 --> 01:22:30,600
corporate resolution wouldn't you

1989
01:22:34,850 --> 01:22:32,940
yeah they wanted him gone and then once

1990
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:34,860
they got him gone and the story of him

1991
01:22:38,990 --> 01:22:37,260
being asked it leaked suddenly they

1992
01:22:41,689 --> 01:22:39,000
wanted him back to talk to the staff

1993
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:41,699
members that's slimy this was while I

1994
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:44,400
was commanded by emotion of a board to

1995
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:47,400
be literally gone unpaid leave for two

1996
01:22:50,689 --> 01:22:48,239
weeks

1997
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:50,699
and then an officer at project Veritas

1998
01:22:55,070 --> 01:22:53,280
took a screenshot of my red receipts of

1999
01:22:58,010 --> 01:22:55,080
text messages and distributed them to

2000
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:58,020
you saying quote you owe your team a

2001
01:23:02,750 --> 01:23:00,480
response please allow communication

2002
01:23:06,050 --> 01:23:02,760
this was during the time

2003
01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:06,060
when I was required by the board to be

2004
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:07,260
gone

2005
01:23:13,850 --> 01:23:12,110
it's going to get stranger

2006
01:23:16,430 --> 01:23:13,860
then and again I'm going to give you

2007
01:23:19,630 --> 01:23:16,440
copies of all this then

2008
01:23:22,250 --> 01:23:19,640
on February 10th yeah

2009
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,260
another board meeting occurred

2010
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:24,239
again I'm gone

2011
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,040
with the meetings minutes reflecting

2012
01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:28,080
that they had indefinitely suspended me

2013
01:23:32,450 --> 01:23:30,420
from the board by this time they had

2014
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,460
stripped me of all of my authority as

2015
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:34,320
CEO

2016
01:23:37,729 --> 01:23:36,239
during the time I was on leave they

2017
01:23:39,890 --> 01:23:37,739
kicked me off the board

2018
01:23:41,689 --> 01:23:39,900
so I can't be a CEO if I have no

2019
01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:41,699
Authority I can't make any decisions I'm

2020
01:23:46,729 --> 01:23:44,280
not allowed to access any donor names

2021
01:23:48,830 --> 01:23:46,739
yeah I would agree that they they

2022
01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:48,840
stripped him of all power and

2023
01:23:53,149 --> 01:23:50,640
responsibility so what is he supposed to

2024
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,159
he's not the CEO he's not able to make

2025
01:23:57,169 --> 01:23:55,440
any decisions he took his corporate

2026
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,179
credit card they won't let him talk to

2027
01:24:02,450 --> 01:23:59,280
the donors I wasn't even sure what my

2028
01:24:07,870 --> 01:24:02,460
job was or if I even had a job

2029
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:12,410
it says that I no longer have a paycheck

2030
01:24:19,729 --> 01:24:16,320
and I'm indefinitely suspended from this

2031
01:24:24,890 --> 01:24:22,610
five days later after that on February

2032
01:24:27,770 --> 01:24:24,900
15th a statement was put out

2033
01:24:29,930 --> 01:24:27,780
by this organization yeah so they they

2034
01:24:32,030 --> 01:24:29,940
gave them a two-week suspension with pay

2035
01:24:34,910 --> 01:24:32,040
and then they suspended him indefinitely

2036
01:24:36,410 --> 01:24:34,920
without pay so they took his his

2037
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,420
paycheck from him

2038
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,880
and they took all responsibility away

2039
01:24:43,070 --> 01:24:40,560
from him so I agree with him then what's

2040
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:43,080
my job you're not firing me but I have

2041
01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:44,880
no responsibilities and I have no

2042
01:24:48,590 --> 01:24:46,980
paycheck

2043
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,600
by this organization's executive

2044
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:50,880
director saying quote James has not been

2045
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:53,400
removed from Project Veritas

2046
01:24:56,209 --> 01:24:54,960
five days after they removed me from

2047
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,219
Project veritas

2048
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,320
so they lied to the staff and they lied

2049
01:25:01,550 --> 01:25:00,000
to the media

2050
01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:01,560
he's not been removed from Project

2051
01:25:06,290 --> 01:25:04,500
Veritas well technically maybe that's

2052
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:06,300
true but they removed his paycheck and

2053
01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:09,120
all responsibilities

2054
01:25:13,610 --> 01:25:12,360
this is really really these people are

2055
01:25:15,470 --> 01:25:13,620
slime balls

2056
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,480
James is the hardest working person I've

2057
01:25:19,130 --> 01:25:17,040
ever met those who know him know he will

2058
01:25:21,229 --> 01:25:19,140
not take time off unless forced to

2059
01:25:22,850 --> 01:25:21,239
absent from the statement was the

2060
01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:22,860
actions of the board to remove me from

2061
01:25:27,530 --> 01:25:25,739
the board and remove me as CEO

2062
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:27,540
I don't know why they omitted that part

2063
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:30,000
because basically later on the 15th the

2064
01:25:34,250 --> 01:25:32,580
same day while hiking with Kennedy PB

2065
01:25:36,290 --> 01:25:34,260
put a statement by quote tweeting a

2066
01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:36,300
picture of me with him saying there is

2067
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:37,560
nothing better than enjoying a

2068
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:39,719
well-deserved vacation

2069
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:42,480
that tweet failed to mention that by

2070
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:44,159
then I had been removed from the board

2071
01:25:50,810 --> 01:25:47,280
and then definitely suspended as CEO wow

2072
01:25:53,630 --> 01:25:50,820
this is really slimy so

2073
01:25:56,270 --> 01:25:53,640
the board members or the people in

2074
01:26:00,110 --> 01:25:56,280
charge after he was ousted of the

2075
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:00,120
project Veritas Twitter account they

2076
01:26:06,110 --> 01:26:03,060
took a picture of him from his social

2077
01:26:10,010 --> 01:26:06,120
media hiking

2078
01:26:13,550 --> 01:26:10,020
from his friend Kennedy Robert F Kennedy

2079
01:26:15,530 --> 01:26:13,560
Jr some interesting friend to have

2080
01:26:18,110 --> 01:26:15,540
um

2081
01:26:20,209 --> 01:26:18,120
James O'Keefe is alive and well why

2082
01:26:21,950 --> 01:26:20,219
wouldn't he be we're sure many of you

2083
01:26:24,110 --> 01:26:21,960
can agree there is nothing better than

2084
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,120
enjoying a well-deserved vacation

2085
01:26:28,850 --> 01:26:26,639
they're calling his suspension a

2086
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:28,860
vacation on their public Twitter account

2087
01:26:34,610 --> 01:26:32,400
and they retweeted it from his friend

2088
01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:34,620
Robert F Kennedy Jr

2089
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:37,260
after they gave him a two-week

2090
01:26:40,669 --> 01:26:38,880
suspension with pay they're calling that

2091
01:26:44,030 --> 01:26:40,679
a vacation

2092
01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:44,040
why didn't they put that part in

2093
01:26:46,689 --> 01:26:45,659
this is where things get really messed

2094
01:26:49,370 --> 01:26:46,699
up

2095
01:26:50,930 --> 01:26:49,380
a few days later an officer sent an

2096
01:26:53,570 --> 01:26:50,940
email to the board with bizarre

2097
01:26:55,850 --> 01:26:53,580
hyperbole an innuendo about certain

2098
01:26:57,709 --> 01:26:55,860
expenses related to our business needs

2099
01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:57,719
these included I agree you can't make

2100
01:27:02,810 --> 01:27:00,300
this up that project Veritas paid for

2101
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,820
James O'Keefe's down payment of his

2102
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,560
wedding

2103
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,480
I gotta chuckle out of this

2104
01:27:10,910 --> 01:27:08,880
I'm not married

2105
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:10,920
um I've never been married

2106
01:27:14,810 --> 01:27:12,719
I do hope to get married one day in fact

2107
01:27:16,850 --> 01:27:14,820
I got married to you in Oklahoma but

2108
01:27:17,530 --> 01:27:16,860
that was pretend

2109
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:17,540
um

2110
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,920
so where did they get this from if he's

2111
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:21,120
never been married everyone enjoyed it

2112
01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:23,280
we rented a charter bus we all went down

2113
01:27:27,229 --> 01:27:25,620
everyone enjoyed that musical or at

2114
01:27:29,810 --> 01:27:27,239
least I thought

2115
01:27:31,610 --> 01:27:29,820
I'm not married but the truth of the

2116
01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:31,620
expense the twelve thousand dollars was

2117
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,300
that it was a payment for annual project

2118
01:27:37,370 --> 01:27:36,239
or a task Christmas party remember that

2119
01:27:40,129 --> 01:27:37,380
where you guys were there some of you

2120
01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:43,129
the officer lied by Omission excluding

2121
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:44,820
the purpose of paying the twelve

2122
01:27:50,030 --> 01:27:47,760
thousand dollars for the wedding venue

2123
01:27:53,570 --> 01:27:50,040
it looked like project Veritas was

2124
01:27:57,649 --> 01:27:53,580
reimbursing me for a wedding venue wow

2125
01:28:01,310 --> 01:27:57,659
why would the officer lie like that wow

2126
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,320
so James O'Keefe paid 12 apparently

2127
01:28:05,689 --> 01:28:03,360
James O'Keefe paid twelve thousand

2128
01:28:07,250 --> 01:28:05,699
dollars for the Christmas party to rent

2129
01:28:10,129 --> 01:28:07,260
the venue or whatever and they

2130
01:28:12,530 --> 01:28:10,139
reimbursed him that expense

2131
01:28:14,689 --> 01:28:12,540
and they're claiming that they paid for

2132
01:28:16,669 --> 01:28:14,699
his wedding it wasn't a wedding it was a

2133
01:28:19,310 --> 01:28:16,679
wedding venue for a Christmas party

2134
01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:19,320
there's a lot of deception here

2135
01:28:24,530 --> 01:28:21,960
on the part of these board members

2136
01:28:27,410 --> 01:28:24,540
there were also again bizarre complaints

2137
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:27,420
this is where you come in Asha about

2138
01:28:31,250 --> 01:28:29,760
taking too many trips to too many

2139
01:28:32,750 --> 01:28:31,260
meetings

2140
01:28:34,669 --> 01:28:32,760
over the course of a year I think they

2141
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:34,679
were like let's read this there was

2142
01:28:41,870 --> 01:28:37,920
approximately 155k spent on black cars

2143
01:28:45,890 --> 01:28:41,880
for 305 305 trips between June

2144
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,900
2021 and November 2022 assuming Uber

2145
01:28:50,209 --> 01:28:48,000
were used as an alternative with no

2146
01:28:53,209 --> 01:28:50,219
waiting time I estimate that cost to be

2147
01:28:56,450 --> 01:28:53,219
approximately 15 000. so they're saying

2148
01:28:57,890 --> 01:28:56,460
he spent more money on private cars and

2149
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:57,900
drivers

2150
01:29:02,810 --> 01:29:00,000
then why didn't they at the time tell

2151
01:29:05,090 --> 01:29:02,820
him to use Uber and not private

2152
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:05,100
car rentals right

2153
01:29:11,090 --> 01:29:07,199
and by the way I think that reference to

2154
01:29:13,610 --> 01:29:11,100
black cars is a reference to limousines

2155
01:29:15,709 --> 01:29:13,620
right so maybe he was limit you know

2156
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:15,719
renting limousines to Ferry him around

2157
01:29:21,070 --> 01:29:18,480
to meetings and stuff who knows but

2158
01:29:24,110 --> 01:29:21,080
fifty dollars a ride the net would be

2159
01:29:26,450 --> 01:29:24,120
140k 305

2160
01:29:29,149 --> 01:29:26,460
cars I had taken to meetings and donors

2161
01:29:31,550 --> 01:29:29,159
and journalism assignments including all

2162
01:29:33,530 --> 01:29:31,560
the quote black cars

2163
01:29:34,910 --> 01:29:33,540
taken from airports to various meetings

2164
01:29:38,330 --> 01:29:34,920
I have a copy of that so you don't have

2165
01:29:42,169 --> 01:29:40,250
the officer stated to the board this is

2166
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,179
on February 13th this week

2167
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:44,159
that we should do things such as quote

2168
01:29:48,890 --> 01:29:46,320
reschedule meetings

2169
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:48,900
and the IRS would prefer Zoom meetings

2170
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:55,310
I don't know about that I'm gonna let

2171
01:30:01,010 --> 01:29:56,880
that sink in for a minute

2172
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:03,050
my lawyer's got a real laugh out of that

2173
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:03,920
one

2174
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:08,639
lawyers

2175
01:30:14,209 --> 01:30:10,620
and again I have a copy of these you can

2176
01:30:16,010 --> 01:30:14,219
read them for yourselves the wedding

2177
01:30:17,629 --> 01:30:16,020
there's a line item here it omits the

2178
01:30:19,010 --> 01:30:17,639
purpose of the expense it was for a

2179
01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:19,020
project you were there you were dressed

2180
01:30:23,330 --> 01:30:20,760
in your amazing Christmas clothes I

2181
01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:23,340
remember it was beautiful it was like a

2182
01:30:29,450 --> 01:30:26,580
Christmas PJ Blazer thing you had on

2183
01:30:34,189 --> 01:30:31,970
it wasn't a wedding thank you thanks for

2184
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:34,199
bringing it out it was a great outfit I

2185
01:30:37,250 --> 01:30:35,520
remember that was what I remember from

2186
01:30:38,810 --> 01:30:37,260
that and was saying Oh What a Beautiful

2187
01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:38,820
Morning I'll give him the Christmas

2188
01:30:45,050 --> 01:30:42,659
party is is a is a is a nonsense issue

2189
01:30:47,689 --> 01:30:45,060
but I don't know about the car thing

2190
01:30:49,610 --> 01:30:47,699
like do they do let me know what you

2191
01:30:50,810 --> 01:30:49,620
think of the live chat do they do they

2192
01:30:52,729 --> 01:30:50,820
have a point maybe he shouldn't be

2193
01:30:55,070 --> 01:30:52,739
running limousines all the time he

2194
01:30:56,510 --> 01:30:55,080
should just take an Uber I think that's

2195
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:56,520
a valid point but that's a point they

2196
01:31:02,030 --> 01:30:59,520
could have raised with him privately uh

2197
01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:02,040
at some time they gave this range of

2198
01:31:08,450 --> 01:31:06,239
between June and November for a full-on

2199
01:31:10,910 --> 01:31:08,460
year they let him spend that money on

2200
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:10,920
those cars why didn't they stop him at

2201
01:31:17,090 --> 01:31:14,639
the first expense you know that would be

2202
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:17,100
reasonable to say Hey you know these

2203
01:31:21,410 --> 01:31:18,960
private rental cars that you're using

2204
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,420
are very expensive that you know they

2205
01:31:25,310 --> 01:31:23,040
usually those rental cars come with a

2206
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,320
chauffeur or driver they'll take you

2207
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:26,880
wherever you want to go but they are

2208
01:31:31,850 --> 01:31:29,040
certainly much much more expensive than

2209
01:31:33,890 --> 01:31:31,860
an Uber would be but why didn't they

2210
01:31:35,629 --> 01:31:33,900
raise it to him they let him spend it

2211
01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:35,639
for a year

2212
01:31:42,110 --> 01:31:39,300
or almost a year before they you know

2213
01:31:43,729 --> 01:31:42,120
found a problem with it but that one I'd

2214
01:31:46,370 --> 01:31:43,739
like to get more informational but the

2215
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:46,380
wedding one is ridiculous he rented a

2216
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,280
wedding

2217
01:31:51,530 --> 01:31:49,679
venue for a Christmas party that's very

2218
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:51,540
very common it wasn't I didn't get

2219
01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:53,040
married it was a project for our last

2220
01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:55,020
Christmas party

2221
01:32:02,149 --> 01:31:58,080
twice as much

2222
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:04,610
okay Christmas party corporate Christmas

2223
01:32:10,490 --> 01:32:07,440
parties are very expensive by the way

2224
01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:10,500
me and my wife have been to a few while

2225
01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:12,719
I was in especially remember I mentioned

2226
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:15,540
I was a supervisor or uh it's I was a

2227
01:32:20,750 --> 01:32:18,719
team leader in finance and uh

2228
01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:20,760
boy did they spend money on a Christmas

2229
01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:23,340
party and not only did they spend money

2230
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:26,159
um it was kind of like one of those very

2231
01:32:31,450 --> 01:32:29,360
very expensive venues with a live band

2232
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:31,460
and uh

2233
01:32:39,290 --> 01:32:35,760
entertainment and they had ridiculous

2234
01:32:42,110 --> 01:32:39,300
food everywhere an open bar and then

2235
01:32:44,629 --> 01:32:42,120
they rented everybody a really really

2236
01:32:46,430 --> 01:32:44,639
nice hotel suite so if you were at the

2237
01:32:49,010 --> 01:32:46,440
at the party they didn't want anybody

2238
01:32:51,530 --> 01:32:49,020
driving home or driving drunk so you

2239
01:32:54,649 --> 01:32:51,540
just open bar and then you got a room to

2240
01:32:56,750 --> 01:32:54,659
go to and you'd go home the next day the

2241
01:32:59,149 --> 01:32:56,760
some corporate places spend a lot more

2242
01:33:00,530 --> 01:32:59,159
than 12 Grand or 25 Grand even on a

2243
01:33:02,810 --> 01:33:00,540
Christmas party depending on the size of

2244
01:33:05,149 --> 01:33:02,820
the organization but 12 grand for a

2245
01:33:06,649 --> 01:33:05,159
Christmas party for a multi-million

2246
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:06,659
dollar

2247
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:07,520
um

2248
01:33:11,090 --> 01:33:09,719
non-profit organization seems very

2249
01:33:14,629 --> 01:33:11,100
reasonable to me

2250
01:33:16,729 --> 01:33:14,639
so does 25 000 to be honest with you

2251
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:16,739
and I have the line item here that sent

2252
01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:19,020
to the board about the black cars

2253
01:33:26,570 --> 01:33:24,950
and by the way Zoom meetings over

2254
01:33:27,530 --> 01:33:26,580
in-person meetings is not how you raise

2255
01:33:29,810 --> 01:33:27,540
money

2256
01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:29,820
and not how you conduct your journalism

2257
01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:32,100
yeah it's hard to get the content over a

2258
01:33:38,770 --> 01:33:35,100
screen I agree with him on that you you

2259
01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:38,780
did you did you know this is interesting

2260
01:33:46,370 --> 01:33:42,480
podcasts where the people are in the

2261
01:33:50,030 --> 01:33:46,380
same room do check it out look at Joe

2262
01:33:52,610 --> 01:33:50,040
Rogan and many many others Tim cast

2263
01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:52,620
um every there's so many podcasts where

2264
01:33:56,930 --> 01:33:54,540
like you know how we do it we do it over

2265
01:33:58,729 --> 01:33:56,940
stream yard or over Zoom if we have a

2266
01:34:01,129 --> 01:33:58,739
guest he comes in virtually and it's

2267
01:34:04,689 --> 01:34:01,139
both of us on a screen but those

2268
01:34:07,729 --> 01:34:04,699
podcasts that do in-person stuff

2269
01:34:10,729 --> 01:34:07,739
uh Lex Friedman and all these other

2270
01:34:12,830 --> 01:34:10,739
bigger podcasts they do better people

2271
01:34:15,770 --> 01:34:12,840
want to see you in the same room with

2272
01:34:18,410 --> 01:34:15,780
the guest it's better that I'll agree

2273
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:18,420
with them on and especially what if

2274
01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:20,480
you're asking donors for money

2275
01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:22,980
where is that going to be more effective

2276
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:25,679
on a zoom call or in person like go take

2277
01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:27,840
the donor to lunch and tell them about

2278
01:34:32,110 --> 01:34:30,480
your mission and and what plans you have

2279
01:34:35,270 --> 01:34:32,120
for the year and how they can help

2280
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:35,280
certainly fundraising is much more

2281
01:34:39,530 --> 01:34:37,440
effective in person so I'll give them

2282
01:34:41,450 --> 01:34:39,540
that one as well

2283
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:41,460
ask our journalist if that works to

2284
01:34:47,450 --> 01:34:44,639
produce a story in fact I would maybe

2285
01:34:49,490 --> 01:34:47,460
ask you guys to ask these guys how

2286
01:34:52,610 --> 01:34:49,500
you're supposed to do your jobs without

2287
01:34:56,689 --> 01:34:52,620
taking quote black cars around I don't

2288
01:34:59,750 --> 01:34:56,699
know how I can do my job here yeah

2289
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,760
if I can't transport myself

2290
01:35:04,370 --> 01:35:01,679
yeah maybe they should just buy him like

2291
01:35:07,370 --> 01:35:04,380
a skateboard or an electric scooter or

2292
01:35:11,229 --> 01:35:07,380
something it's kind of ridiculous and

2293
01:35:13,610 --> 01:35:11,239
I don't know you know my only

2294
01:35:15,050 --> 01:35:13,620
experience or you know the lens I'm

2295
01:35:16,970 --> 01:35:15,060
viewing this from is Corporate America

2296
01:35:19,970 --> 01:35:16,980
I've worked for a bunch of multi-million

2297
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:19,980
dollar organizations and like

2298
01:35:26,209 --> 01:35:22,800
every organization I've worked for like

2299
01:35:28,430 --> 01:35:26,219
unless the CEO is really doing stupid

2300
01:35:31,129 --> 01:35:28,440
stupid Financial things and remember I

2301
01:35:33,050 --> 01:35:31,139
worked in finance they just let them go

2302
01:35:35,870 --> 01:35:33,060
like

2303
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:35,880
I worked for one organization where the

2304
01:35:44,570 --> 01:35:39,840
CEO got a company car every year

2305
01:35:46,729 --> 01:35:44,580
and the CEO wanted a hundred and seventy

2306
01:35:48,770 --> 01:35:46,739
five thousand dollar car but it's a

2307
01:35:50,990 --> 01:35:48,780
multi-million it's in his contract that

2308
01:35:53,629 --> 01:35:51,000
he gets a company car and he gets to

2309
01:35:55,250 --> 01:35:53,639
pick whatever car he wants this dude

2310
01:35:56,930 --> 01:35:55,260
picked a hundred and seventy five

2311
01:35:59,450 --> 01:35:56,940
thousand dollar car

2312
01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,460
nobody blinked an eye in finance that's

2313
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:01,679
what he gets and that guy is a

2314
01:36:08,090 --> 01:36:04,800
multi-million dollar uh asset to the

2315
01:36:10,610 --> 01:36:08,100
organization if he wants 175 000 card

2316
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:10,620
get it for him and you know what's the

2317
01:36:15,410 --> 01:36:12,480
guy going to do get a Kia for ten

2318
01:36:17,570 --> 01:36:15,420
thousand dollars if I if imagine if you

2319
01:36:20,330 --> 01:36:17,580
had the right to just pick any car you

2320
01:36:22,129 --> 01:36:20,340
wanted and it's in your contract nobody

2321
01:36:26,810 --> 01:36:22,139
blinked an eye so

2322
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:26,820
I I find this questioning of the CEOs uh

2323
01:36:31,790 --> 01:36:27,840
spending

2324
01:36:34,970 --> 01:36:31,800
to be very Petty and remember the chief

2325
01:36:36,410 --> 01:36:34,980
fundraiser for this organization is

2326
01:36:38,090 --> 01:36:36,420
James O'Keefe to the best of my

2327
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:38,100
knowledge so he's the one bringing in

2328
01:36:42,290 --> 01:36:40,080
all the money

2329
01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:42,300
I I don't understand them questioning

2330
01:36:46,430 --> 01:36:44,760
his spending it doesn't seem to be

2331
01:36:50,209 --> 01:36:46,440
outrageous to me

2332
01:36:52,430 --> 01:36:50,219
if he spent up whatever he spent 100 150

2333
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:52,440
000 on rental cars for the year

2334
01:36:58,850 --> 01:36:55,440
he raised it looked like he raised 24

2335
01:37:01,070 --> 01:36:58,860
million dollars for them this past year

2336
01:37:04,669 --> 01:37:01,080
around the United States it actually

2337
01:37:07,610 --> 01:37:04,679
doesn't make any actual sense does it

2338
01:37:12,290 --> 01:37:07,620
none of this makes any sense

2339
01:37:15,470 --> 01:37:13,729
those are the questions I have I don't

2340
01:37:17,090 --> 01:37:15,480
have answers right after the Pfizer

2341
01:37:19,610 --> 01:37:17,100
story to seller Marshall that's

2342
01:37:20,990 --> 01:37:19,620
suspicious after the series of events I

2343
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:21,000
wrote a letter to the board on February

2344
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:22,080
16th

2345
01:37:26,450 --> 01:37:25,020
with the proposal many of you have not

2346
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:26,460
seen this but this is what I sent to

2347
01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:28,560
them which I I guess they haven't shared

2348
01:37:30,350 --> 01:37:29,400
this with you but I'm going to share

2349
01:37:32,030 --> 01:37:30,360
with you now

2350
01:37:33,050 --> 01:37:32,040
with a proposal that the board members

2351
01:37:35,570 --> 01:37:33,060
resign

2352
01:37:38,090 --> 01:37:35,580
by the end of this past week yeah they

2353
01:37:40,430 --> 01:37:38,100
had a really point out past that point

2354
01:37:44,030 --> 01:37:40,440
or I'll be forced to walk away

2355
01:37:48,290 --> 01:37:46,490
yeah and by the way I just want to give

2356
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,300
everybody a piece of advice if you're

2357
01:37:52,010 --> 01:37:50,400
ever put in a position like this

2358
01:37:53,149 --> 01:37:52,020
where they're trying to force you to

2359
01:38:00,430 --> 01:37:53,159
quit

2360
01:38:03,890 --> 01:38:00,440
um you know

2361
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:03,900
make them fire you because then you

2362
01:38:09,229 --> 01:38:05,940
might have a lawsuit if if they're doing

2363
01:38:10,669 --> 01:38:09,239
Shady dirty things but if you quit they

2364
01:38:13,610 --> 01:38:10,679
can just say hey we try to work it out

2365
01:38:15,890 --> 01:38:13,620
he chose to resign you know I had an

2366
01:38:18,410 --> 01:38:15,900
organization once ask me for a

2367
01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:18,420
resignation they said I think it would

2368
01:38:23,450 --> 01:38:20,040
be in all of our best interests if you

2369
01:38:25,370 --> 01:38:23,460
just resign and I said well okay you

2370
01:38:27,169 --> 01:38:25,380
mean it being your best interest I'm not

2371
01:38:28,850 --> 01:38:27,179
resigning if you want to fire me I'll go

2372
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:28,860
clean out my desk but I want a letter

2373
01:38:33,050 --> 01:38:30,960
from you stating that you are

2374
01:38:37,070 --> 01:38:33,060
terminating my employment or I'm not

2375
01:38:38,450 --> 01:38:37,080
moving you know and it's funny uh you

2376
01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:38,460
know some of these corporate types are

2377
01:38:43,129 --> 01:38:40,620
real man they don't deal well

2378
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:43,139
with a real man

2379
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,560
so uh they in that situation I did get

2380
01:38:51,169 --> 01:38:48,960
fired and they escorted me or tried to

2381
01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:51,179
escort me out of the building with

2382
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:54,000
security or something like that uh and

2383
01:38:56,930 --> 01:38:55,679
they wanted me to leave and not go back

2384
01:39:00,110 --> 01:38:56,940
to my desk

2385
01:39:01,310 --> 01:39:00,120
and uh I said no I'm going back to my

2386
01:39:02,990 --> 01:39:01,320
desk and I'm getting my personal

2387
01:39:05,209 --> 01:39:03,000
belongings and if you have a problem

2388
01:39:06,770 --> 01:39:05,219
with it you can try to physically remove

2389
01:39:08,930 --> 01:39:06,780
me

2390
01:39:11,330 --> 01:39:08,940
um but I walked in here like a man and

2391
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:11,340
I'm walking out of here like a man not

2392
01:39:15,169 --> 01:39:13,800
like a and they just back down and

2393
01:39:16,729 --> 01:39:15,179
I went and cleaned out my desk and I

2394
01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:16,739
left and uh

2395
01:39:23,209 --> 01:39:19,739
by the way that was the last corporate

2396
01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:23,219
cubicle job I ever had I walked out of

2397
01:39:28,430 --> 01:39:25,560
there and yeah I got fired but it was

2398
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:28,440
very interesting I got fired I think I

2399
01:39:32,090 --> 01:39:30,719
got fired on a Monday

2400
01:39:34,850 --> 01:39:32,100
I think so

2401
01:39:36,530 --> 01:39:34,860
and by that Friday I had filed all the

2402
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,540
paperwork I had started my own business

2403
01:39:42,350 --> 01:39:38,719
and I bought a Corvette

2404
01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:42,360
I was like I am not gonna be feel like a

2405
01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:44,280
loser here I did and by the way in that

2406
01:39:49,790 --> 01:39:46,020
situation I did nothing wrong it's a

2407
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:49,800
long story but uh it's interesting

2408
01:39:55,610 --> 01:39:52,800
though when I you know that's a big hit

2409
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,620
getting fired that was a huge paycheck

2410
01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:58,080
too and a lot of security and benefits

2411
01:40:02,510 --> 01:40:00,719
and and everything but I said I am going

2412
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:02,520
to start my own business and I'm gonna

2413
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:05,280
buy a Corvette and I did you know and

2414
01:40:09,410 --> 01:40:07,440
that's a weird thing right like you

2415
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:09,420
bought a Corvette you just got fired

2416
01:40:14,330 --> 01:40:11,760
like and I'm I'm like yeah and I started

2417
01:40:16,610 --> 01:40:14,340
a business too and it's interesting it

2418
01:40:18,590 --> 01:40:16,620
took it took a while it did take a while

2419
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:18,600
but

2420
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,080
um several months after that firing Mike

2421
01:40:26,450 --> 01:40:24,480
I I was making the same money

2422
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:26,460
and I was working for myself and I

2423
01:40:31,490 --> 01:40:29,159
wasn't miserable and hate my life and

2424
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:31,500
sit in a sad cubicle all day I will

2425
01:40:40,850 --> 01:40:39,470
Dearborn

2426
01:40:42,050 --> 01:40:40,860
and I'm not going to provide the whole

2427
01:40:43,970 --> 01:40:42,060
thing but I'll provide the meat and

2428
01:40:45,649 --> 01:40:43,980
potatoes over the last two weeks I've

2429
01:40:47,510 --> 01:40:45,659
carefully filed the boards of directive

2430
01:40:48,590 --> 01:40:47,520
to take a vacation and avoid contacting

2431
01:40:52,490 --> 01:40:48,600
donors

2432
01:40:54,649 --> 01:40:52,500
being developed up with thousands of

2433
01:40:57,229 --> 01:40:54,659
phone calls

2434
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,239
one donor even I posted a video she was

2435
01:41:01,790 --> 01:40:58,800
upset about how she was portrayed in the

2436
01:41:03,590 --> 01:41:01,800
Grievances Ramirez was her name

2437
01:41:04,910 --> 01:41:03,600
she posted a video saying the grievance

2438
01:41:07,250 --> 01:41:04,920
was a total lie

2439
01:41:08,330 --> 01:41:07,260
that's great my understanding is one of

2440
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,340
the officers of this organization

2441
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:10,560
respond to that by calling the donor a

2442
01:41:15,169 --> 01:41:13,199
liar that's great the officer wasn't

2443
01:41:17,330 --> 01:41:15,179
there

2444
01:41:18,830 --> 01:41:17,340
why would the officer call the woman

2445
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:18,840
with the sole Authority on the matter

2446
01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:20,639
who was there why would he call her a

2447
01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:21,780
liar

2448
01:41:29,330 --> 01:41:27,709
your actions over the same period to

2449
01:41:31,250 --> 01:41:29,340
undermine Veritas in its future

2450
01:41:33,470 --> 01:41:31,260
including airing confidential employment

2451
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,480
matters publicly has broken trust

2452
01:41:38,810 --> 01:41:36,000
I cannot in good conscience return to

2453
01:41:40,609 --> 01:41:38,820
such a mismanaged organization I have no

2454
01:41:42,290 --> 01:41:40,619
I have not responded privately or

2455
01:41:44,930 --> 01:41:42,300
publicly because there is no rational

2456
01:41:46,129 --> 01:41:44,940
appropriate response for the emotional

2457
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,139
circus

2458
01:41:50,570 --> 01:41:48,000
that has been created by your actions

2459
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:50,580
and it's interesting essentially he's

2460
01:41:55,790 --> 01:41:54,060
saying that the board created a

2461
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:55,800
grievance from a donor who then

2462
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:58,320
corrected the record and said oh I don't

2463
01:42:03,050 --> 01:42:00,800
have a grievance they must they they

2464
01:42:05,149 --> 01:42:03,060
misconstrued things or you know I I

2465
01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:05,159
don't have this this they manufacture

2466
01:42:10,010 --> 01:42:07,920
this grievance they called her a liar

2467
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,020
I expect the board to resign by the end

2468
01:42:14,450 --> 01:42:12,239
of the week project Veritas including

2469
01:42:16,430 --> 01:42:14,460
any employees who choose to stay

2470
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:16,440
will go on under my leadership with

2471
01:42:19,490 --> 01:42:18,000
newly appointed professional board

2472
01:42:21,890 --> 01:42:19,500
members and officers prepared to

2473
01:42:23,390 --> 01:42:21,900
exercise their duty of care and duty of

2474
01:42:25,790 --> 01:42:23,400
loyalty to the organization that's what

2475
01:42:29,030 --> 01:42:25,800
a board does oh that's very interesting

2476
01:42:30,410 --> 01:42:29,040
so they try to ask him they suspended

2477
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,420
him for two weeks

2478
01:42:34,850 --> 01:42:32,639
and uh

2479
01:42:37,609 --> 01:42:34,860
then they gave him an indefinite

2480
01:42:40,010 --> 01:42:37,619
suspicion and he sent him he sent the

2481
01:42:42,169 --> 01:42:40,020
board members a letter saying I expect

2482
01:42:44,510 --> 01:42:42,179
you all to resign

2483
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,520
so this is a definite power struggle

2484
01:42:48,050 --> 01:42:46,560
within the organization he's not just

2485
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:48,060
quitting he's not quitting and going

2486
01:42:52,370 --> 01:42:50,159
away like they want

2487
01:42:54,530 --> 01:42:52,380
um he's telling them I expect you to

2488
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:54,540
resign I'm not resigning

2489
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:57,119
the exercise duty of loyalty and duty of

2490
01:42:59,930 --> 01:42:57,960
care

2491
01:43:01,609 --> 01:42:59,940
what they shouldn't do is try to destroy

2492
01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:01,619
an organization

2493
01:43:06,770 --> 01:43:04,800
that's not what a board number does

2494
01:43:07,850 --> 01:43:06,780
I will return to work on Monday that's

2495
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:07,860
today

2496
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:10,080
and work with the remaining team

2497
01:43:14,750 --> 01:43:12,480
to go forward with our mission

2498
01:43:16,729 --> 01:43:14,760
short of this action I cannot in good

2499
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,739
faith return to the employment of an

2500
01:43:19,609 --> 01:43:18,000
organization with leaders who are

2501
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,619
attacking me personally

2502
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,840
making false and unsupported claims of

2503
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:23,520
improper management of resources about

2504
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,920
weddings and black cars improperly

2505
01:43:30,050 --> 01:43:27,840
airing employment issues related to me

2506
01:43:31,490 --> 01:43:30,060
and others at project Veritas I did not

2507
01:43:33,950 --> 01:43:31,500
leak that document and I would swear to

2508
01:43:35,570 --> 01:43:33,960
it under oath

2509
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,580
but it probably wasn't necessary for

2510
01:43:39,530 --> 01:43:37,920
March employees into a boardroom

2511
01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:39,540
that's never happened in any boardroom

2512
01:43:44,270 --> 01:43:42,300
in the history of boardrooms

2513
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,280
and that's one of the reasons why our

2514
01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:46,320
donors are so upset

2515
01:43:51,229 --> 01:43:48,600
yeah the donors are pissed that doesn't

2516
01:43:54,350 --> 01:43:53,090
ruining our reputation in front of

2517
01:43:56,030 --> 01:43:54,360
supporters and donors and leaking

2518
01:43:57,229 --> 01:43:56,040
confidential information and fabricating

2519
01:43:59,149 --> 01:43:57,239
stories

2520
01:44:00,830 --> 01:43:59,159
one of our ethical rules is we don't lie

2521
01:44:05,149 --> 01:44:00,840
to our audience

2522
01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:05,159
years you know that's a good ethical

2523
01:44:09,709 --> 01:44:07,679
rule to have and I try to do that I

2524
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:09,719
should write that down that'll be

2525
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:11,760
something that we can that I could take

2526
01:44:17,570 --> 01:44:14,639
from this we we do our very best not to

2527
01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:17,580
lie or mislead the audience here

2528
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,900
but I was stripped of all decision

2529
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:20,880
making last week

2530
01:44:28,129 --> 01:44:22,800
and you guys put out a statement

2531
01:44:32,209 --> 01:44:30,709
and there's nothing I could do about it

2532
01:44:33,530 --> 01:44:32,219
because I was stripped of all my

2533
01:44:36,530 --> 01:44:33,540
decision making I was removed from the

2534
01:44:40,970 --> 01:44:39,109
I was asked to be gone until the 20th it

2535
01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:40,980
is now the 20th

2536
01:44:43,609 --> 01:44:42,719
I asked the board to resign for the

2537
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:43,619
conduct

2538
01:44:50,750 --> 01:44:48,530
So currently I have no job at project

2539
01:44:52,910 --> 01:44:50,760
Veritas I have no position here

2540
01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:52,920
based upon what the board has done

2541
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:54,719
so I'm announcing to you all that today

2542
01:44:57,890 --> 01:44:56,340
on President's Day I'm packing up my

2543
01:44:59,450 --> 01:44:57,900
personal belongings

2544
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:59,460
that's interesting I don't really have

2545
01:45:03,050 --> 01:45:00,960
much in this room that belongs to me I

2546
01:45:04,729 --> 01:45:03,060
guess a painting a diploma

2547
01:45:06,890 --> 01:45:04,739
some personal things

2548
01:45:08,570 --> 01:45:06,900
it won't feel much maybe it'll fill my

2549
01:45:10,729 --> 01:45:08,580
Kia

2550
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,739
oh that's interesting personal I'm sorry

2551
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:12,239
emotional

2552
01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:14,400
from headquarters and I'm intending to

2553
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:16,260
start anew

2554
01:45:20,330 --> 01:45:18,960
I don't have the answers to why they've

2555
01:45:22,430 --> 01:45:20,340
been doing this

2556
01:45:25,609 --> 01:45:22,440
or why board members were going directly

2557
01:45:29,649 --> 01:45:25,619
to employees to collect grievances on

2558
01:45:34,910 --> 01:45:32,270
or why our board members were going to

2559
01:45:36,350 --> 01:45:34,920
employees directly to discuss removing

2560
01:45:38,930 --> 01:45:36,360
me

2561
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:38,940
from this organization or why they were

2562
01:45:41,810 --> 01:45:40,320
bribing people telling them they're

2563
01:45:44,270 --> 01:45:41,820
going to get a raise if we could get rid

2564
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,280
of James O'Keefe even saying I'll give

2565
01:45:49,629 --> 01:45:47,280
you a raise yeah James is removed

2566
01:45:52,609 --> 01:45:49,639
that might be illegal I don't know

2567
01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:52,619
it might be yeah that's definitely I

2568
01:45:56,750 --> 01:45:54,300
mean I'm no lawyer but I think it's

2569
01:45:59,450 --> 01:45:56,760
definitely illegal to try to bribe

2570
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,460
people for their votes to get rid of a

2571
01:46:07,370 --> 01:46:04,910
but why would they do it the week of our

2572
01:46:09,649 --> 01:46:07,380
biggest story ever

2573
01:46:11,810 --> 01:46:09,659
but I'm confident that those reasons and

2574
01:46:13,790 --> 01:46:11,820
motivations will come to light

2575
01:46:15,470 --> 01:46:13,800
to borrow an old expression the public

2576
01:46:17,330 --> 01:46:15,480
has a right to know

2577
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:17,340
what yeah this is definitely going to be

2578
01:46:21,169 --> 01:46:19,199
a lawsuit this guy is not going to just

2579
01:46:23,629 --> 01:46:21,179
lay down and let this let these clowns

2580
01:46:25,729 --> 01:46:23,639
do this to him it's happened here

2581
01:46:27,530 --> 01:46:25,739
and why there was a concerted effort to

2582
01:46:29,209 --> 01:46:27,540
remove me

2583
01:46:32,030 --> 01:46:29,219
from the organization I founded the same

2584
01:46:35,090 --> 01:46:32,040
week of our biggest story ever had

2585
01:46:39,050 --> 01:46:35,100
yeah and by the way I think that the

2586
01:46:41,209 --> 01:46:39,060
biggest story and and him them trying to

2587
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:41,219
get rid of him I don't know some people

2588
01:46:44,930 --> 01:46:42,560
are are

2589
01:46:48,350 --> 01:46:44,940
speculating that Pfizer had something to

2590
01:46:50,510 --> 01:46:48,360
do with this but it appears to me that

2591
01:46:53,330 --> 01:46:50,520
these wheels were in motion and it just

2592
01:46:55,550 --> 01:46:53,340
so happens that they got lucky with a

2593
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,560
huge story right at the time that they

2594
01:47:02,830 --> 01:46:58,320
started to put this plan into action but

2595
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:07,550
almost done

2596
01:47:12,649 --> 01:47:10,550
this is very difficult

2597
01:47:14,209 --> 01:47:12,659
and I'm filming this for the staff you

2598
01:47:17,689 --> 01:47:14,219
know sorry you couldn't be physically

2599
01:47:22,430 --> 01:47:17,699
here this is for internal distribution

2600
01:47:25,070 --> 01:47:22,440
my my dear team I do love many of you

2601
01:47:26,450 --> 01:47:25,080
I never said it those words but I'll say

2602
01:47:28,010 --> 01:47:26,460
it now

2603
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:28,020
I want to go back to the beginning of

2604
01:47:31,490 --> 01:47:29,520
what I said and express how I agree with

2605
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,500
so many of you are to me how I still

2606
01:47:35,930 --> 01:47:33,119
believe we have a long and bright future

2607
01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:35,940
together somehow some way

2608
01:47:39,709 --> 01:47:37,920
and to share my profound appreciation

2609
01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:39,719
for many of you

2610
01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:41,580
when I left the office and this is where

2611
01:47:44,990 --> 01:47:42,719
I'm going to get emotional so please

2612
01:47:46,609 --> 01:47:45,000
forgive me when I left the office on

2613
01:47:48,530 --> 01:47:46,619
February 6th that's being stripped of

2614
01:47:51,530 --> 01:47:48,540
all my authority

2615
01:47:53,570 --> 01:47:51,540
I saw my father and gave him a hug

2616
01:47:56,330 --> 01:47:53,580
realizing just how honest and real the

2617
01:48:00,890 --> 01:47:58,250
both my parents are as genuine and down

2618
01:48:02,450 --> 01:48:00,900
to earth as a son could ever have

2619
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:02,460
it's true you never really know someone

2620
01:48:07,490 --> 01:48:05,040
until you go through hell with them

2621
01:48:09,530 --> 01:48:07,500
you see back in the carriage house

2622
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:09,540
13 years ago

2623
01:48:14,030 --> 01:48:12,719
the feds would come to my home

2624
01:48:16,010 --> 01:48:14,040
to make sure

2625
01:48:18,350 --> 01:48:16,020
that I was inside my house

2626
01:48:20,090 --> 01:48:18,360
administering random drug tests and

2627
01:48:21,770 --> 01:48:20,100
rifling through my expenses to make sure

2628
01:48:23,629 --> 01:48:21,780
I wasn't lying about the strawberry ice

2629
01:48:25,970 --> 01:48:23,639
cream I bought 7-Eleven

2630
01:48:27,950 --> 01:48:25,980
I didn't have any money but they went

2631
01:48:30,410 --> 01:48:27,960
through my debit card statements and

2632
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:30,420
tried to get me to sign things

2633
01:48:34,010 --> 01:48:32,400
to prove I wasn't lying

2634
01:48:36,590 --> 01:48:34,020
there were federal agents showing up at

2635
01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:36,600
my parents house

2636
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,580
there were no donors

2637
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,320
there were no supporters

2638
01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:42,719
and I was not trending on Twitter

2639
01:48:46,609 --> 01:48:44,460
my father went through this hell with me

2640
01:48:49,250 --> 01:48:46,619
and stuck to those bullies on the front

2641
01:48:50,330 --> 01:48:49,260
lawn and told them to stop harassing our

2642
01:48:53,149 --> 01:48:50,340
family

2643
01:48:54,530 --> 01:48:53,159
and at that point that's all I had

2644
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:54,540
was him

2645
01:48:59,870 --> 01:48:56,400
well that's something else that's a good

2646
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:02,870
I was otherwise completely alone

2647
01:49:11,870 --> 01:49:08,689
now the good news

2648
01:49:16,250 --> 01:49:14,330
we have millions of Americans who do who

2649
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,260
also know who I am

2650
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:21,729
sorry

2651
01:49:28,189 --> 01:49:26,159
boss in fact you have

2652
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:28,199
and we all have watched

2653
01:49:35,450 --> 01:49:32,159
their overwhelming support they see the

2654
01:49:38,930 --> 01:49:35,460
truth they know who I am

2655
01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:38,940
I also know many of you know who I am

2656
01:49:43,370 --> 01:49:40,800
and you know what's right

2657
01:49:44,810 --> 01:49:43,380
right you know your your people of

2658
01:49:48,410 --> 01:49:44,820
principle here

2659
01:49:48,420 --> 01:50:05,450
and this now may be your moment of truth

2660
01:50:09,649 --> 01:50:07,669
oh I'm sorry I did it again I apologize

2661
01:50:11,450 --> 01:50:09,659
I'm curious to see

2662
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:11,460
how many of the people that work there

2663
01:50:16,729 --> 01:50:13,440
are just going to quit and go with James

2664
01:50:18,410 --> 01:50:16,739
if he starts a new organization

2665
01:50:20,270 --> 01:50:18,420
um or are they going to keep their mouth

2666
01:50:22,129 --> 01:50:20,280
shut to keep their paycheck but I don't

2667
01:50:24,109 --> 01:50:22,139
think project Veritas is going to be

2668
01:50:27,050 --> 01:50:24,119
around much longer to give them a

2669
01:50:27,790 --> 01:50:27,060
paycheck without James O'Keefe

2670
01:50:31,129 --> 01:50:27,800
um

2671
01:50:33,229 --> 01:50:31,139
interesting it'll be interesting to see

2672
01:50:36,290 --> 01:50:33,239
and then if he even wants any of them

2673
01:50:39,770 --> 01:50:36,300
you know to go with him or not I'm sure

2674
01:50:42,890 --> 01:50:39,780
he doesn't want any of the board members

2675
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:42,900
one of you called me from a closet the

2676
01:50:50,030 --> 01:50:46,020
day of the seventh after I was suspended

2677
01:50:52,250 --> 01:50:50,040
the day after I was let go

2678
01:50:55,790 --> 01:50:52,260
and you were crying

2679
01:50:57,950 --> 01:50:55,800
I never heard I never heard that tone

2680
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:57,960
before I told you it was going to be

2681
01:51:01,070 --> 01:50:59,520
okay

2682
01:51:03,530 --> 01:51:01,080
you were afraid of what was happening

2683
01:51:05,450 --> 01:51:03,540
here you said is this really hard this

2684
01:51:07,129 --> 01:51:05,460
is really hard to take I can't take this

2685
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:07,139
anymore

2686
01:51:11,090 --> 01:51:08,880
I told you that I struggled alongside

2687
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,100
you although I wasn't physically there I

2688
01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:12,960
told you that I loved you

2689
01:51:16,490 --> 01:51:14,639
a number of us told each other that we

2690
01:51:17,930 --> 01:51:16,500
loved one another it was the first time

2691
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:17,940
I've shared that sentiment with a

2692
01:51:21,590 --> 01:51:19,440
colleague

2693
01:51:23,330 --> 01:51:21,600
it was a very real moment a very

2694
01:51:24,830 --> 01:51:23,340
beautiful moment a touching moment where

2695
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,840
we were bound together yeah well they

2696
01:51:28,729 --> 01:51:26,159
were many of us were really bound

2697
01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:28,739
together they were all plotting to get

2698
01:51:33,890 --> 01:51:31,679
rid of James so the loyal employee to

2699
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,900
James went into a closet to call him and

2700
01:51:39,590 --> 01:51:36,000
let him know what was going on that's

2701
01:51:42,109 --> 01:51:39,600
that's a loyal you know employee moment

2702
01:51:46,669 --> 01:51:42,119
and I was grateful for that I recognized

2703
01:51:49,850 --> 01:51:46,679
just how honest and real many of you are

2704
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:49,860
in your souls

2705
01:51:59,209 --> 01:51:56,810
with men with brass balls and women

2706
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:59,219
with the courage of a lion and it really

2707
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:00,960
what I what I drew from this experience

2708
01:52:04,729 --> 01:52:03,360
is the gratitude that I have

2709
01:52:06,350 --> 01:52:04,739
you know

2710
01:52:07,970 --> 01:52:06,360
for so many of you

2711
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,980
and that's and as I was going through

2712
01:52:12,109 --> 01:52:09,840
this horrible pain

2713
01:52:14,330 --> 01:52:12,119
where I lost eight pounds and couldn't

2714
01:52:18,050 --> 01:52:14,340
sleep for five days I was actually

2715
01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:18,060
overcome with this amazing gratitude

2716
01:52:23,090 --> 01:52:21,119
true story I was I was really feeling it

2717
01:52:25,370 --> 01:52:23,100
and and I and I'm grateful for that

2718
01:52:28,370 --> 01:52:25,380
because I've experienced something I

2719
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:28,380
never have because I saw the goodness

2720
01:52:33,950 --> 01:52:30,960
and and many of you that I did not

2721
01:52:35,810 --> 01:52:33,960
previously see that's interesting and

2722
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:35,820
yes Andy I sort of addressed those

2723
01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:37,920
things in the beginning of the show I

2724
01:52:42,169 --> 01:52:39,840
talked about how he is definitely left

2725
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:42,179
leaning and but

2726
01:52:47,870 --> 01:52:45,060
um you know he's done things like reveal

2727
01:52:50,750 --> 01:52:47,880
that the or I'm sorry he's right-leaning

2728
01:52:54,530 --> 01:52:50,760
he's certainly conservative right wing

2729
01:52:57,169 --> 01:52:54,540
uh agenda maybe but I think that's okay

2730
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,179
because we have a major league at least

2731
01:53:02,810 --> 01:52:59,760
in this country Andy the media is skewed

2732
01:53:05,390 --> 01:53:02,820
to the to left and he did some expose

2733
01:53:08,209 --> 01:53:05,400
proving that like CNN was manipulating

2734
01:53:10,490 --> 01:53:08,219
the news to be more favorable to the

2735
01:53:12,530 --> 01:53:10,500
left and to vilify the right and he

2736
01:53:15,410 --> 01:53:12,540
exposed that you know there has to be

2737
01:53:18,050 --> 01:53:15,420
some balance majorly I don't know how it

2738
01:53:21,649 --> 01:53:18,060
is in England Andy but majorly the media

2739
01:53:24,290 --> 01:53:21,659
is left or liberal leaning by far like

2740
01:53:25,609 --> 01:53:24,300
90 of American Media is liberal or

2741
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:25,619
left-leaning

2742
01:53:32,450 --> 01:53:29,040
so he's certainly right leaning and and

2743
01:53:34,910 --> 01:53:32,460
conservative but he's vastly outnumbered

2744
01:53:38,750 --> 01:53:34,920
if you ask me you know and I think it's

2745
01:53:40,430 --> 01:53:38,760
it's he's sort of The Equalizer or I

2746
01:53:42,649 --> 01:53:40,440
think it's fair if you're going to have

2747
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:42,659
so many left-leaning liberal people you

2748
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:45,679
should have some right wing or or

2749
01:53:49,010 --> 01:53:48,239
right-leaning conservative people as

2750
01:53:51,530 --> 01:53:49,020
well

2751
01:53:54,290 --> 01:53:51,540
putting their slam it's a shame that we

2752
01:53:56,510 --> 01:53:54,300
just don't have meat you know

2753
01:53:58,910 --> 01:53:56,520
I would much prefer there's no slant to

2754
01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:58,920
the news not left not right just tell me

2755
01:54:03,050 --> 01:54:00,960
the facts tell me the news but

2756
01:54:05,629 --> 01:54:03,060
unfortunately in this country

2757
01:54:08,030 --> 01:54:05,639
you know we have Fox News that is

2758
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,040
conservative but most of the media

2759
01:54:13,729 --> 01:54:11,280
Outlets besides Fox News and maybe uh

2760
01:54:17,570 --> 01:54:13,739
Veritas and a few other Renegades sort

2761
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:17,580
of Indie organizations every media

2762
01:54:24,169 --> 01:54:18,560
Outlet

2763
01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:24,179
MSNBC CNN NBC CBS ABC

2764
01:54:28,510 --> 01:54:24,960
um

2765
01:54:31,970 --> 01:54:28,520
they're all left-leaning so

2766
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:31,980
you know I I don't I don't take away

2767
01:54:36,290 --> 01:54:33,840
anything from him for being

2768
01:54:37,790 --> 01:54:36,300
right-leaning because most of our media

2769
01:54:42,109 --> 01:54:37,800
is left-leaning

2770
01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:42,119
so yeah but it's certainly you know uh

2771
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:44,820
and yes I talked about how there's a lot

2772
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:47,040
of controversy with their methods and

2773
01:54:52,250 --> 01:54:48,719
people have accused them of selectively

2774
01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:52,260
editing things and yeah

2775
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,480
so I meant the statement that I made in

2776
01:54:59,090 --> 01:54:56,400
the beginning of this

2777
01:55:00,410 --> 01:54:59,100
the statement I made before was veritas

2778
01:55:02,570 --> 01:55:00,420
will never be defeated from the outside

2779
01:55:04,910 --> 01:55:02,580
it'll only be defeated from the inside

2780
01:55:08,270 --> 01:55:04,920
that's actually not true

2781
01:55:10,669 --> 01:55:08,280
no the only way to defeat us is if they

2782
01:55:12,410 --> 01:55:10,679
take our spirit

2783
01:55:15,470 --> 01:55:12,420
and from the looks of things many of us

2784
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:15,480
remain completely undefeated

2785
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:18,239
and Unbroken

2786
01:55:22,430 --> 01:55:19,920
so

2787
01:55:25,070 --> 01:55:22,440
our mission continues on

2788
01:55:26,990 --> 01:55:25,080
I'm not done the mission will perhaps

2789
01:55:29,229 --> 01:55:27,000
take on a new name

2790
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,239
and it may be no longer called Veritas

2791
01:55:32,930 --> 01:55:31,920
project Veritas I'll need a bunch of

2792
01:55:34,970 --> 01:55:32,940
people

2793
01:55:37,550 --> 01:55:34,980
around me

2794
01:55:40,970 --> 01:55:37,560
and I'll make sure

2795
01:55:43,070 --> 01:55:40,980
I'll make sure you know how to find me

2796
01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:43,080
well that's interesting for sort of

2797
01:55:45,950 --> 01:55:44,400
inviting them to come with him you

2798
01:55:48,410 --> 01:55:45,960
invited me to New York City and did that

2799
01:55:51,590 --> 01:55:48,420
little uh stand up

2800
01:55:53,570 --> 01:55:51,600
how how fitting that from

2801
01:55:56,930 --> 01:55:53,580
Shakespeare quote and this story shall

2802
01:56:00,709 --> 01:55:58,490
we few

2803
01:56:03,709 --> 01:56:00,719
we happy few

2804
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,719
we Band of Brothers and Sisters

2805
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:05,760
so with that I'm going to collect my

2806
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:06,719
things

2807
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:14,149
and I hope to see some of you soon

2808
01:56:21,590 --> 01:56:17,760
that's it that's very very interesting

2809
01:56:22,609 --> 01:56:21,600
so he's inviting the the loyal to join

2810
01:56:24,590 --> 01:56:22,619
him

2811
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:24,600
and

2812
01:56:35,330 --> 01:56:34,320
decision-making process

2813
01:56:37,250 --> 01:56:35,340
um

2814
01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:37,260
let me know what do you think we'll take

2815
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:38,760
comments and questions from the live

2816
01:56:42,890 --> 01:56:39,840
chat

2817
01:56:45,470 --> 01:56:42,900
is Project veritasco to survive without

2818
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:45,480
their founder that they're

2819
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,960
throwing out you know in the street here

2820
01:56:51,290 --> 01:56:50,400
um do you think there's going to be I

2821
01:56:54,050 --> 01:56:51,300
think there's going to be a lot of

2822
01:56:56,570 --> 01:56:54,060
lawsuits over this James is

2823
01:56:57,590 --> 01:56:56,580
um very lawyered and he has great

2824
01:57:02,149 --> 01:56:57,600
lawyers

2825
01:57:04,250 --> 01:57:02,159
I think there's going to be an awful lot

2826
01:57:07,129 --> 01:57:04,260
of lawsuits especially because he can

2827
01:57:09,530 --> 01:57:07,139
prove that they were bribing people to

2828
01:57:11,629 --> 01:57:09,540
vote remember I think it come it came

2829
01:57:12,649 --> 01:57:11,639
down to some sort of a vote and they had

2830
01:57:16,089 --> 01:57:12,659
to have

2831
01:57:19,729 --> 01:57:16,099
some sort of you know

2832
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:19,739
Democratic process to do this to him and

2833
01:57:23,810 --> 01:57:22,080
they had to have a certain percentage I

2834
01:57:25,250 --> 01:57:23,820
don't know if it's 60 percent or seven I

2835
01:57:26,510 --> 01:57:25,260
think it's I think he might have

2836
01:57:29,390 --> 01:57:26,520
mentioned or I saw in some of the

2837
01:57:32,810 --> 01:57:29,400
paperwork at 70 percent of everybody has

2838
01:57:35,209 --> 01:57:32,820
to agree to ask to get to do this to him

2839
01:57:36,890 --> 01:57:35,219
but if they're bribing people in the

2840
01:57:38,750 --> 01:57:36,900
organization to get them to vote with

2841
01:57:40,850 --> 01:57:38,760
them by saying you'll get a raise if we

2842
01:57:43,669 --> 01:57:40,860
get rid of James O'Keefe

2843
01:57:46,010 --> 01:57:43,679
that's probably illegal I'm not a lawyer

2844
01:57:46,970 --> 01:57:46,020
though I'm not a law enforcement officer

2845
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:46,980
so

2846
01:57:55,189 --> 01:57:52,560
think that they're going to have an

2847
01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:55,199
extremely hard time raising funds after

2848
01:57:58,129 --> 01:57:56,400
this

2849
01:58:01,370 --> 01:57:58,139
in fact there's people all over Twitter

2850
01:58:03,589 --> 01:58:01,380
that I have seen that are requesting

2851
01:58:05,930 --> 01:58:03,599
that they're they get their money back

2852
01:58:09,169 --> 01:58:05,940
right

2853
01:58:13,070 --> 01:58:09,179
um it's this is an interesting story and

2854
01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:13,080
uh we there's an article uh

2855
01:58:20,510 --> 01:58:16,260
from Vanity Fair

2856
01:58:27,229 --> 01:58:22,729
let me uh share my oh wait a minute

2857
01:58:27,239 --> 01:58:30,950
see if they're gonna

2858
01:58:34,430 --> 01:58:32,750
one second I'll share my screen we'll

2859
01:58:35,870 --> 01:58:34,440
read a little bit of this article this

2860
01:58:42,350 --> 01:58:35,880
is James

2861
01:58:44,510 --> 01:58:42,360
leading like a power drunk tyrant

2862
01:58:46,669 --> 01:58:44,520
the board has insisted it did not fire

2863
01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:46,679
O'Keefe nor did we want him to resign

2864
01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:49,440
and it appears willing to make amends we

2865
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,940
would like to continue conversations

2866
01:58:55,250 --> 01:58:53,040
with James to resolve internal matters

2867
01:58:57,530 --> 01:58:55,260
rather than litigate them publicly the

2868
01:58:59,689 --> 01:58:57,540
statement read

2869
01:59:01,729 --> 01:58:59,699
I have not resigned from the company I

2870
01:59:04,370 --> 01:59:01,739
was stripped of my position of CEO and

2871
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:04,380
chairman said James O'Keefe still the

2872
01:59:09,950 --> 01:59:06,719
board insisted it did not fire O'Keefe

2873
01:59:10,910 --> 01:59:09,960
right O'Keefe some departure comes weeks

2874
01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:10,920
after

2875
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:14,280
16 project Veritas employees signed a

2876
01:59:17,930 --> 01:59:16,800
memo to the board accusing O'Keefe of

2877
01:59:20,830 --> 01:59:17,940
managing

2878
01:59:23,750 --> 01:59:20,840
like a quote powertrunk Tyrant unquote

2879
01:59:25,550 --> 01:59:23,760
claiming that he bullied him to mean his

2880
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:25,560
staff one employee even alleged that he

2881
01:59:30,770 --> 01:59:27,920
once took a pregnant woman's lunch

2882
01:59:32,450 --> 01:59:30,780
according to the Daily Beast O'Keefe did

2883
01:59:33,649 --> 01:59:32,460
not respond to the Daily BEAST's request

2884
01:59:36,290 --> 01:59:33,659
for comment

2885
01:59:38,750 --> 01:59:36,300
over the last two years the group has

2886
01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:38,760
suffered a spat of legal problems

2887
01:59:43,010 --> 01:59:41,040
stemming from its procurement of a

2888
01:59:45,589 --> 01:59:43,020
stolen diary kept by first daughter

2889
01:59:49,010 --> 01:59:45,599
Ashley Biden oh I forgot all about that

2890
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:49,020
they got the um

2891
01:59:54,770 --> 01:59:53,040
they got a diary from Ashley Biden and

2892
01:59:56,750 --> 01:59:54,780
then they got raided by the feds for

2893
01:59:59,390 --> 01:59:56,760
having that diary boy would I like to

2894
02:00:01,250 --> 01:59:59,400
know what was in it according to

2895
02:00:03,589 --> 02:00:01,260
well we don't even want to get into that

2896
02:00:07,010 --> 02:00:03,599
but there were some accusations in that

2897
02:00:08,870 --> 02:00:07,020
diary by Ashley Biden about now

2898
02:00:12,050 --> 02:00:08,880
president

2899
02:00:14,930 --> 02:00:12,060
Joe Biden uh and they were very very

2900
02:00:16,609 --> 02:00:14,940
serious accusations I wonder whatever

2901
02:00:19,070 --> 02:00:16,619
happened to that diary

2902
02:00:19,850 --> 02:00:19,080
because uh that turned into a whole

2903
02:00:21,470 --> 02:00:19,860
thing

2904
02:00:23,209 --> 02:00:21,480
the group has never published the

2905
02:00:25,850 --> 02:00:23,219
contents of the diary and has faced no

2906
02:00:27,950 --> 02:00:25,860
charges in the key in the case O'Keefe's

2907
02:00:30,589 --> 02:00:27,960
home was searched by FBI agents as part

2908
02:00:32,750 --> 02:00:30,599
of the 2021 investigation into its theft

2909
02:00:34,189 --> 02:00:32,760
the diary which was stolen by two

2910
02:00:36,410 --> 02:00:34,199
Florida residents who have pleaded

2911
02:00:38,450 --> 02:00:36,420
guilty to the crime was ultimately

2912
02:00:40,729 --> 02:00:38,460
turned over to law enforcement meanwhile

2913
02:00:44,930 --> 02:00:40,739
in a separate case last year a federal

2914
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:44,940
jury awarded democracy Partners 127 120

2915
02:00:50,089 --> 02:00:47,760
000 after it ruled that project Veritas

2916
02:00:51,890 --> 02:00:50,099
had violated wiretapping laws in

2917
02:00:54,530 --> 02:00:51,900
Undercover videos targeting the

2918
02:00:56,510 --> 02:00:54,540
Democratic consulting firm well that's

2919
02:00:58,490 --> 02:00:56,520
interesting

2920
02:01:00,729 --> 02:00:58,500
um so yeah they did go too far in at

2921
02:01:02,810 --> 02:01:00,739
least one case because they this

2922
02:01:04,189 --> 02:01:02,820
democracy partner's got a hundred and

2923
02:01:07,609 --> 02:01:04,199
twenty thousand dollar

2924
02:01:10,129 --> 02:01:07,619
ruling that they violated wiretapping

2925
02:01:12,350 --> 02:01:10,139
laws and and that has to do with

2926
02:01:14,510 --> 02:01:12,360
recording phone calls or conversations

2927
02:01:16,250 --> 02:01:14,520
it's always best to be very very careful

2928
02:01:18,410 --> 02:01:16,260
when doing that

2929
02:01:20,930 --> 02:01:18,420
um I live in a one-party consent state

2930
02:01:24,169 --> 02:01:20,940
so I don't worry about that too much and

2931
02:01:26,330 --> 02:01:24,179
uh I I record whatever whatever I want

2932
02:01:28,609 --> 02:01:26,340
during an investigation and I'm free to

2933
02:01:31,729 --> 02:01:28,619
broadcast it as well completely and

2934
02:01:34,729 --> 02:01:31,739
totally legal for me in some states not

2935
02:01:37,129 --> 02:01:34,739
so much right

2936
02:01:38,570 --> 02:01:37,139
I'm not expecting my money back I just

2937
02:01:40,729 --> 02:01:38,580
want to apply pressure and let them know

2938
02:01:42,229 --> 02:01:40,739
they've lost my support and why yeah I

2939
02:01:44,570 --> 02:01:42,239
would say reach out to them communicate

2940
02:01:46,609 --> 02:01:44,580
to them let them know that you're not

2941
02:01:47,629 --> 02:01:46,619
happy tell me what your money back a lot

2942
02:01:49,669 --> 02:01:47,639
of people are telling them they want

2943
02:01:52,970 --> 02:01:49,679
their money back

2944
02:01:54,410 --> 02:01:52,980
um the big guy Biden yes yes oh boy

2945
02:01:56,810 --> 02:01:54,420
would I love to know what was in that

2946
02:01:59,149 --> 02:01:56,820
diary because the feds came down like a

2947
02:02:02,050 --> 02:01:59,159
hammer on anybody that had that in their

2948
02:02:04,370 --> 02:02:02,060
possession or copies of it or whatever

2949
02:02:06,589 --> 02:02:04,380
but to the best of my knowledge and

2950
02:02:08,810 --> 02:02:06,599
recollection

2951
02:02:10,609 --> 02:02:08,820
um O'Keefe and project Veritas

2952
02:02:12,229 --> 02:02:10,619
cooperated they gave up whatever

2953
02:02:13,970 --> 02:02:12,239
information that they have and they

2954
02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:13,980
weren't charged so if they did anything

2955
02:02:16,669 --> 02:02:15,599
wrong in that case they would have been

2956
02:02:23,109 --> 02:02:16,679
charged

2957
02:02:25,550 --> 02:02:23,119
crossed the uh the dividing cartel

2958
02:02:28,490 --> 02:02:25,560
co-end says true Seekers on isn't it

2959
02:02:31,010 --> 02:02:28,500
like 4 a.m there yes it is

2960
02:02:33,470 --> 02:02:31,020
um this is our new uh insomnia series

2961
02:02:35,629 --> 02:02:33,480
I've been having terrible in Tommy and I

2962
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:35,639
just decided if I'm going to not be able

2963
02:02:40,669 --> 02:02:37,440
to sleep I'll get a couple of extra

2964
02:02:43,790 --> 02:02:40,679
shows in so

2965
02:02:46,129 --> 02:02:43,800
and also we wanted to do a few shows at

2966
02:02:48,189 --> 02:02:46,139
4am here for the benefit of people in

2967
02:02:50,810 --> 02:02:48,199
Australia and England

2968
02:02:53,629 --> 02:02:50,820
and while we do have people listening

2969
02:02:56,030 --> 02:02:53,639
from all over the world the most people

2970
02:02:58,850 --> 02:02:56,040
listening from other countries to us is

2971
02:03:01,310 --> 02:02:58,860
England and London or excuse me England

2972
02:03:04,010 --> 02:03:01,320
and Australia and those are both

2973
02:03:06,410 --> 02:03:04,020
English-speaking countries and

2974
02:03:07,970 --> 02:03:06,420
many people have said oh Stephen I love

2975
02:03:10,250 --> 02:03:07,980
your show but I can never catch it live

2976
02:03:13,250 --> 02:03:10,260
because when it's 9 there it's 4 a.m

2977
02:03:15,470 --> 02:03:13,260
here or something so we're doing this uh

2978
02:03:18,109 --> 02:03:15,480
so it's more reasonable time for the

2979
02:03:19,790 --> 02:03:18,119
people in London and I keep saying

2980
02:03:23,209 --> 02:03:19,800
London in England

2981
02:03:25,850 --> 02:03:23,219
and in Australia Tasmania and all those

2982
02:03:29,930 --> 02:03:25,860
uh around

2983
02:03:33,050 --> 02:03:29,940
uh Australia to catch a live show uh

2984
02:03:35,149 --> 02:03:33,060
we'll be doing this until the insomnia

2985
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:35,159
situation improves

2986
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:39,360
I have some 10 count of 10 what I call

2987
02:03:43,310 --> 02:03:41,520
bonus or extra shows that are sort of

2988
02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:43,320
off topic and I never get to them

2989
02:03:48,109 --> 02:03:45,780
because they're sort of off topic so

2990
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:48,119
we're going to start doing them and if

2991
02:03:54,830 --> 02:03:50,400
my insomnia improves we're going to

2992
02:03:57,649 --> 02:03:54,840
start doing like 11 A.M or 12 noon shows

2993
02:04:00,770 --> 02:03:57,659
eastern time again for the benefit of

2994
02:04:02,330 --> 02:04:00,780
those across the pond

2995
02:04:04,250 --> 02:04:02,340
um give them we want to give everybody

2996
02:04:08,570 --> 02:04:04,260
an opportunity to catch a live show and

2997
02:04:11,149 --> 02:04:08,580
I realize if 9 pm eastern time is 4 a.m

2998
02:04:13,250 --> 02:04:11,159
your time if in your home country you're

2999
02:04:17,390 --> 02:04:13,260
going to have difficulty being in the

3000
02:04:22,609 --> 02:04:19,450
oh I didn't know it's your birthday

3001
02:04:24,410 --> 02:04:22,619
pragmagic says thanks for the project uh

3002
02:04:26,270 --> 02:04:24,420
Veritas birthday stream I know you did

3003
02:04:30,530 --> 02:04:26,280
it just for me buddy real appreciate it

3004
02:04:33,290 --> 02:04:30,540
well uh I did listen I knew it was your

3005
02:04:34,669 --> 02:04:33,300
birthday I I knew that it was your

3006
02:04:36,169 --> 02:04:34,679
birthday

3007
02:04:37,310 --> 02:04:36,179
I don't know if I don't think he

3008
02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:37,320
believes me

3009
02:04:43,729 --> 02:04:40,320
listen uh I knew it was your birthday

3010
02:04:46,669 --> 02:04:43,739
pragmagic and I was uh just talking to

3011
02:04:48,229 --> 02:04:46,679
my cat and I told him it was your

3012
02:04:50,030 --> 02:04:48,239
birthday I tried to get him to sing

3013
02:04:51,470 --> 02:04:50,040
Happy Birthday and he started yelling at

3014
02:04:54,669 --> 02:04:51,480
me I don't know if you know but I got

3015
02:04:58,910 --> 02:04:54,679
this talking cat so anyway

3016
02:05:00,830 --> 02:04:58,920
happy birthday pragmagic what

3017
02:05:06,770 --> 02:05:00,840
what

3018
02:05:08,330 --> 02:05:06,780
am I supposed to do here am I supposed

3019
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:08,340
to sing Happy Birthday to you every time

3020
02:05:12,530 --> 02:05:10,320
it's your birthday

3021
02:05:17,629 --> 02:05:12,540
all right fine this is it

3022
02:05:21,890 --> 02:05:17,639
happy birthday to you happy birthday to

3023
02:05:24,530 --> 02:05:21,900
you happy birthday to you happy birthday

3024
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,540
to you all right

3025
02:05:27,830 --> 02:05:26,159
God

3026
02:05:32,589 --> 02:05:27,840
can a cat just get some sleep around

3027
02:05:38,990 --> 02:05:36,410
happy birthday my friend pragmagic and

3028
02:05:40,430 --> 02:05:39,000
uh pragmagic I I someday we have to

3029
02:05:42,350 --> 02:05:40,440
catch up and I want to know how you're

3030
02:05:45,290 --> 02:05:42,360
doing on that land and building stuff

3031
02:05:47,570 --> 02:05:45,300
and did you even get started I uh I'm

3032
02:05:50,450 --> 02:05:47,580
getting started at my new place maybe

3033
02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:50,460
two more months 60 more days and I'm

3034
02:05:56,689 --> 02:05:52,800
building a new place a new Cabin in the

3035
02:06:02,089 --> 02:06:00,229
your cat rules we have a tea date yeah

3036
02:06:04,070 --> 02:06:02,099
well happy birthday buddy I hope you

3037
02:06:06,229 --> 02:06:04,080
have a great one tell your girlfriend to

3038
02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:06,239
bang you you know you know what I like

3039
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:07,920
about birthdays it's like mandatory

3040
02:06:11,649 --> 02:06:09,360
you're getting bang day it's your

3041
02:06:14,629 --> 02:06:11,659
birthday she's gotta do it right

3042
02:06:15,649 --> 02:06:14,639
happy happy fun time right it's my

3043
02:06:20,089 --> 02:06:15,659
birthday

3044
02:06:23,390 --> 02:06:20,099
look at those eyes yes yes uh and then

3045
02:06:25,310 --> 02:06:23,400
from sack says she is enjoying this time

3046
02:06:27,169 --> 02:06:25,320
for a change yeah

3047
02:06:29,450 --> 02:06:27,179
it's great to catch you live from the

3048
02:06:31,729 --> 02:06:29,460
from the Great Britain UK great that's

3049
02:06:34,490 --> 02:06:31,739
uh that was the purpose I figured so

3050
02:06:37,850 --> 02:06:34,500
many of you have asked me to do shows uh

3051
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:37,860
either in England or in Australia right

3052
02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:40,800
and uh I guess uh troubled Minds Mike

3053
02:06:47,570 --> 02:06:44,699
he's got insomnia too right and by the

3054
02:06:49,870 --> 02:06:47,580
way uh Mike I thought I was going to

3055
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:49,880
email you but since you're here

3056
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:52,800
you and I should talk off air because I

3057
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:54,719
thought if we trade notes that would be

3058
02:06:57,890 --> 02:06:56,280
good for both of us right I'm sure

3059
02:07:00,290 --> 02:06:57,900
there's some things you long learned

3060
02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,300
along the way maybe you can help me with

3061
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,639
my audio podcast and in exchange I'll

3062
02:07:08,270 --> 02:07:04,800
help you with your ufop with your

3063
02:07:09,950 --> 02:07:08,280
YouTube channel and we'll both grow our

3064
02:07:12,290 --> 02:07:09,960
respective

3065
02:07:14,209 --> 02:07:12,300
I don't want to say problems

3066
02:07:15,950 --> 02:07:14,219
you know but we both have our strengths

3067
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:15,960
and weaknesses and also I wanted to ask

3068
02:07:20,510 --> 02:07:18,239
you some stuff off air about the

3069
02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:20,520
AI stuff that you're using because I'm

3070
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:26,390
Cohen says when are you going to cover

3071
02:07:30,169 --> 02:07:28,560
access Consciousness in their money scam

3072
02:07:31,970 --> 02:07:30,179
Channel BS

3073
02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:31,980
crazy what people are spending on that

3074
02:07:35,930 --> 02:07:33,599
nonsense well

3075
02:07:38,589 --> 02:07:35,940
it's on my list that's what I could tell

3076
02:07:42,830 --> 02:07:38,599
you and I apologize One Main Army here

3077
02:07:45,709 --> 02:07:42,840
and uh uh co-n what I would tell you is

3078
02:07:47,870 --> 02:07:45,719
the same thing I tell everybody I I

3079
02:07:49,970 --> 02:07:47,880
appreciate that people want me to cover

3080
02:07:51,890 --> 02:07:49,980
certain things but the problem is I'm a

3081
02:07:53,870 --> 02:07:51,900
one-man Army here and these

3082
02:07:55,970 --> 02:07:53,880
investigative pieces like you're asking

3083
02:07:58,430 --> 02:07:55,980
me to do here could take one month and

3084
02:08:00,770 --> 02:07:58,440
I've got 10 ahead of that but that is on

3085
02:08:02,810 --> 02:08:00,780
my list I promise you it is on my list

3086
02:08:06,169 --> 02:08:02,820
and when I can get to it I will get to

3087
02:08:07,729 --> 02:08:06,179
it I'm trying to uh

3088
02:08:10,490 --> 02:08:07,739
I guess you could say I'm trying to

3089
02:08:13,790 --> 02:08:10,500
minimize other things that are time

3090
02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:13,800
problems for me right and get a bunch of

3091
02:08:17,930 --> 02:08:15,599
stuff off my to-do list so that I have

3092
02:08:20,030 --> 02:08:17,940
more time every week for I enjoy the

3093
02:08:23,089 --> 02:08:20,040
investigative Stories the best the

3094
02:08:25,729 --> 02:08:23,099
problem is if I only did that we would

3095
02:08:28,729 --> 02:08:25,739
have one show a month here you know so

3096
02:08:31,790 --> 02:08:28,739
we have to do some commentary shows or

3097
02:08:34,010 --> 02:08:31,800
some interview shows

3098
02:08:36,649 --> 02:08:34,020
um in a perfect world I I would have a

3099
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:36,659
full staff doing uh you know all of the

3100
02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:43,010
oh cool I already sent you an email with

3101
02:08:47,450 --> 02:08:45,599
some Deets but for sure yeah I go to a

3102
02:08:50,510 --> 02:08:47,460
cabin every weekend troubled minds and I

3103
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:50,520
have a little bit of downtime and so I'd

3104
02:08:54,290 --> 02:08:52,320
be happy to stream the artists or Zoom

3105
02:08:55,970 --> 02:08:54,300
or Skype or whatever from there or just

3106
02:08:58,430 --> 02:08:55,980
phone call I'll I'll give you my cell

3107
02:08:59,810 --> 02:08:58,440
phone number but we should yeah I think

3108
02:09:00,649 --> 02:08:59,820
it's a good idea to try to help each

3109
02:09:02,450 --> 02:09:00,659
other

3110
02:09:04,010 --> 02:09:02,460
and there's things that I'm sure that I

3111
02:09:08,330 --> 02:09:04,020
can help you with

3112
02:09:10,250 --> 02:09:08,340
um or I think I can I can try right yeah

3113
02:09:12,050 --> 02:09:10,260
I just think it's interesting that

3114
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:12,060
you're so much bigger on the audio side

3115
02:09:17,209 --> 02:09:14,639
you know and I was ready to stop doing

3116
02:09:20,689 --> 02:09:17,219
mine until somebody helped me

3117
02:09:22,729 --> 02:09:20,699
I was doing it totally wrong Mike I I

3118
02:09:25,250 --> 02:09:22,739
was using the same thumbnail for every

3119
02:09:27,530 --> 02:09:25,260
show just that change alone and suddenly

3120
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:27,540
the audio podcast is making money right

3121
02:09:31,070 --> 02:09:29,460
I just thought nobody cares about the

3122
02:09:33,530 --> 02:09:31,080
thumbnail they care about the content

3123
02:09:35,450 --> 02:09:33,540
now the thumbnail gets them to listen to

3124
02:09:39,169 --> 02:09:35,460
click on it right

3125
02:09:41,450 --> 02:09:39,179
uh yeah and it's interesting I want to

3126
02:09:42,589 --> 02:09:41,460
show you my audio podcast stats too

3127
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:42,599
because

3128
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:44,639
I don't know what I did but on some of

3129
02:09:50,209 --> 02:09:48,000
those days there's like 10 times or five

3130
02:09:51,649 --> 02:09:50,219
times at least the average day's

3131
02:09:54,410 --> 02:09:51,659
engagement and

3132
02:09:57,410 --> 02:09:54,420
I try to look what were those shows

3133
02:09:59,030 --> 02:09:57,420
where did I post them it's the same sort

3134
02:10:00,830 --> 02:09:59,040
of con I don't know how that happened

3135
02:10:02,450 --> 02:10:00,840
but I'd like to make it happen every day

3136
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:02,460
you know

3137
02:10:06,410 --> 02:10:04,560
uh

3138
02:10:08,270 --> 02:10:06,420
just don't ask Steven to help you with

3139
02:10:10,729 --> 02:10:08,280
your 3D printer those are the bane of my

3140
02:10:13,490 --> 02:10:10,739
existence I hate them I hate them in

3141
02:10:15,169 --> 02:10:13,500
fact Arlene my neighbor who's taken

3142
02:10:17,810 --> 02:10:15,179
several months trying to fix that thing

3143
02:10:20,089 --> 02:10:17,820
after Ron didn't fix it

3144
02:10:21,470 --> 02:10:20,099
um and by the way for those unaware Ron

3145
02:10:23,149 --> 02:10:21,480
and a couple of other people in my life

3146
02:10:24,530 --> 02:10:23,159
kept telling me Oh you got to get a 3D

3147
02:10:25,790 --> 02:10:24,540
printer Steve and I kept saying no I

3148
02:10:28,370 --> 02:10:25,800
don't want one they're nothing but

3149
02:10:30,830 --> 02:10:28,380
aggravation no no no they all assured me

3150
02:10:33,350 --> 02:10:30,840
this thing hasn't worked right for a

3151
02:10:35,149 --> 02:10:33,360
year since I got it and so everybody

3152
02:10:36,770 --> 02:10:35,159
thinks they could fix it and I'm just

3153
02:10:38,209 --> 02:10:36,780
stupid and don't know how to run it and

3154
02:10:40,729 --> 02:10:38,219
then they try to fix it and they can't

3155
02:10:42,649 --> 02:10:40,739
my neighbor wants me to take it back to

3156
02:10:44,629 --> 02:10:42,659
him and send it back to the company

3157
02:10:46,430 --> 02:10:44,639
because apparently the one that I have

3158
02:10:48,589 --> 02:10:46,440
has some sort of manufacturer's defect

3159
02:10:51,649 --> 02:10:48,599
so it's I'm going to throw it in the

3160
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:51,659
trash and just never 3D print something

3161
02:10:57,649 --> 02:10:55,040
again right

3162
02:10:59,209 --> 02:10:57,659
co-n says access Consciousness a whole

3163
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:59,219
other level of money that people are

3164
02:11:02,570 --> 02:11:00,960
throwing at something ex-scientologists

3165
02:11:04,910 --> 02:11:02,580
started it years ago and claims he was

3166
02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:04,920
channeling Rasputin or some alien to get

3167
02:11:09,530 --> 02:11:07,440
the info uh I know I've I've looked into

3168
02:11:12,649 --> 02:11:09,540
it but not deeply enough to do a show on

3169
02:11:14,810 --> 02:11:12,659
it yet right if only you could 3D print

3170
02:11:16,370 --> 02:11:14,820
me a new birthday cat well I could if

3171
02:11:19,370 --> 02:11:16,380
the thing worked it never worked right

3172
02:11:20,870 --> 02:11:19,380
so where I'm at with 3D printing is I

3173
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:20,880
want to take the 3D printer that I

3174
02:11:27,410 --> 02:11:24,239
wasted like 500 on and by the way

3175
02:11:29,810 --> 02:11:27,420
that is a big expense for me I am so

3176
02:11:31,550 --> 02:11:29,820
cheap that to get me to spend 500 on

3177
02:11:34,430 --> 02:11:31,560
something like that

3178
02:11:36,229 --> 02:11:34,440
that was like a once in a in a three or

3179
02:11:38,510 --> 02:11:36,239
four or five year

3180
02:11:40,910 --> 02:11:38,520
splurge on myself

3181
02:11:42,830 --> 02:11:40,920
it hasn't it never worked right since I

3182
02:11:45,709 --> 02:11:42,840
got it I just want to throw it in the

3183
02:11:47,330 --> 02:11:45,719
trash and not continue to aggravate me

3184
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:47,340
everybody's like oh no send it back to

3185
02:11:51,530 --> 02:11:49,679
the company or get this part and replace

3186
02:11:53,930 --> 02:11:51,540
this part we've been doing that for a

3187
02:11:55,490 --> 02:11:53,940
year the things never worked right I

3188
02:11:57,530 --> 02:11:55,500
don't want to aggravate myself any

3189
02:12:01,250 --> 02:11:57,540
further I want to throw it in the trash

3190
02:12:03,290 --> 02:12:01,260
and just be free of the aggravation that

3191
02:12:05,390 --> 02:12:03,300
I didn't want from 3D printers to start

3192
02:12:07,070 --> 02:12:05,400
with I said I don't want one they're

3193
02:12:09,229 --> 02:12:07,080
nothing but aggravation I told everybody

3194
02:12:11,149 --> 02:12:09,239
they're nothing but aggravation if this

3195
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:11,159
thing's just going to aggravate me it's

3196
02:12:14,089 --> 02:12:12,719
not going to work right or it's going to

3197
02:12:16,729 --> 02:12:14,099
need parts replaced everybody no

3198
02:12:18,530 --> 02:12:16,739
everybody all my all my nerd friends oh

3199
02:12:19,790 --> 02:12:18,540
no no they're much different now Steve

3200
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:19,800
and they've really worked out the bugs

3201
02:12:25,550 --> 02:12:22,639
they all work great now no they don't

3202
02:12:27,410 --> 02:12:25,560
it's a it's just a big pile of

3203
02:12:29,149 --> 02:12:27,420
aggravation I don't need in my life I

3204
02:12:32,270 --> 02:12:29,159
have two children I don't have the

3205
02:12:34,729 --> 02:12:32,280
patience for aggravation on the level of

3206
02:12:37,149 --> 02:12:34,739
a child right that needs that kind of

3207
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:37,159
time and attention and no

3208
02:12:40,430 --> 02:12:39,360
so I'm going to take it back from my

3209
02:12:42,410 --> 02:12:40,440
neighbor

3210
02:12:44,810 --> 02:12:42,420
the only thing I will say is if the

3211
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:44,820
company who sold it to me will honor

3212
02:12:50,810 --> 02:12:47,280
uh the purchase and give me a different

3213
02:12:54,530 --> 02:12:50,820
model maybe I'll try again but not with

3214
02:12:58,609 --> 02:12:56,990
yep that's the thing Mark Tehran and

3215
02:13:00,109 --> 02:12:58,619
Mark Toronto says my son's 3D printers

3216
02:13:01,189 --> 02:13:00,119
work well he's done many modifications

3217
02:13:03,950 --> 02:13:01,199
to it

3218
02:13:05,930 --> 02:13:03,960
I agree but he's had to work on it for

3219
02:13:07,729 --> 02:13:05,940
like a year to get it to work good for

3220
02:13:10,250 --> 02:13:07,739
him and I did that and mine still

3221
02:13:13,370 --> 02:13:10,260
doesn't work good or work right it

3222
02:13:15,589 --> 02:13:13,380
chokes on bigger prints of course I did

3223
02:13:17,870 --> 02:13:15,599
buy a really well considerably bigger

3224
02:13:19,790 --> 02:13:17,880
than a starter one 18 inch

3225
02:13:22,189 --> 02:13:19,800
they can print 18 inches wide and 18

3226
02:13:24,649 --> 02:13:22,199
inches high and 18 inches long

3227
02:13:25,310 --> 02:13:24,659
that's a pretty big 3D printer

3228
02:13:27,709 --> 02:13:25,320
um

3229
02:13:30,410 --> 02:13:27,719
it's just

3230
02:13:32,209 --> 02:13:30,420
too much it's too much little

3231
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:32,219
Sledgehammer session says Girl Next Door

3232
02:13:38,209 --> 02:13:34,560
absolutely I'm ready for it I'm ready

3233
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:38,219
for uh to take take a hammer to it break

3234
02:13:43,490 --> 02:13:40,800
it all up and put it in a trash bag and

3235
02:13:45,649 --> 02:13:43,500
never worry about 3D printing again if I

3236
02:13:47,930 --> 02:13:45,659
really want to print something

3237
02:13:49,609 --> 02:13:47,940
I have friends that all have them I can

3238
02:13:51,169 --> 02:13:49,619
send a file and say hey can you print

3239
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:51,179
this for me I'll give you I'll give you

3240
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:53,760
some printer filament or I'll buy you

3241
02:13:57,830 --> 02:13:55,920
you know dinner or something

3242
02:14:00,169 --> 02:13:57,840
and that's much less aggravating than

3243
02:14:02,510 --> 02:14:00,179
have to constantly Tinker with the thing

3244
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:02,520
replace Parks level it level it again

3245
02:14:07,850 --> 02:14:06,000
move it oh I even

3246
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:07,860
somebody told me oh it's the temperature

3247
02:14:12,530 --> 02:14:10,320
in your room it's not right put it in a

3248
02:14:15,229 --> 02:14:12,540
different room I did that

3249
02:14:18,770 --> 02:14:15,239
oh now I moved it now I got to spend an

3250
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:18,780
hour auto leveling it and then the auto

3251
02:14:23,330 --> 02:14:20,880
level is only so good so then you have

3252
02:14:25,729 --> 02:14:23,340
to manually level it after you're done

3253
02:14:29,390 --> 02:14:25,739
and like this thing has been nothing but

3254
02:14:33,709 --> 02:14:31,490
am I selling it no I'm throwing it in

3255
02:14:37,490 --> 02:14:33,719
the trash you want it I'll send I'll

3256
02:14:41,930 --> 02:14:39,229
pragmagic it's your birthday happy

3257
02:14:43,609 --> 02:14:41,940
birthday prank Magic my good friend I

3258
02:14:45,169 --> 02:14:43,619
was just saying yesterday or the day

3259
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:45,179
before somebody had a birthday and we

3260
02:14:51,410 --> 02:14:48,480
did the birthday shout outs like

3261
02:14:54,050 --> 02:14:51,420
enjoy it pragmagic because we never know

3262
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:54,060
how many we have right like how many

3263
02:14:57,770 --> 02:14:56,400
more do you have left probably more than

3264
02:15:01,010 --> 02:14:57,780
me

3265
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:01,020
um but you never know right life could

3266
02:15:07,609 --> 02:15:04,079
be short and enjoy the time that you're

3267
02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:07,619
given uh every birthday is a celebration

3268
02:15:11,149 --> 02:15:09,599
of course it is also a little depressing

3269
02:15:13,790 --> 02:15:11,159
that means you're one year closer to the

3270
02:15:18,129 --> 02:15:13,800
Grave every year but I guess it's on how

3271
02:15:22,370 --> 02:15:20,450
Veritas and James O'Keefe were targeted

3272
02:15:24,410 --> 02:15:22,380
by the pharmaceutical companies for this

3273
02:15:25,790 --> 02:15:24,420
their destruction because they bravely

3274
02:15:27,770 --> 02:15:25,800
reported the truth

3275
02:15:30,609 --> 02:15:27,780
Pfizer is involved in gaining function

3276
02:15:35,229 --> 02:15:30,619
uh yeah maybe

3277
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,239
allegedly at least the Avalon allegedly

3278
02:15:40,250 --> 02:15:37,920
uh yeah

3279
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:40,260
yes I did Mark Tarana that was one of

3280
02:15:43,790 --> 02:15:42,000
the other things that somebody said you

3281
02:15:47,149 --> 02:15:43,800
got to do so I bought one of those for

3282
02:15:50,270 --> 02:15:47,159
99 and that didn't change anything so

3283
02:15:52,729 --> 02:15:50,280
you know and by the way Mark Tarana it's

3284
02:15:55,550 --> 02:15:52,739
not just that suggestion that somebody

3285
02:15:56,689 --> 02:15:55,560
suggested replacing the filament with

3286
02:15:58,189 --> 02:15:56,699
different filaments so I bought

3287
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:58,199
different filament then somebody

3288
02:16:02,569 --> 02:16:00,000
suggested no you got to replace the

3289
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:02,579
printer nozzle so I replaced that then

3290
02:16:07,250 --> 02:16:05,040
somebody said that I have to replace

3291
02:16:10,129 --> 02:16:07,260
some other part some sensor so we

3292
02:16:13,310 --> 02:16:10,139
replaced that we've replaced like eight

3293
02:16:15,770 --> 02:16:13,320
parts on this thing I think and nothing

3294
02:16:18,290 --> 02:16:15,780
has fixed it it still doesn't work right

3295
02:16:21,290 --> 02:16:18,300
it's just a whole

3296
02:16:27,410 --> 02:16:21,300
bunch of aggravation I hate it

3297
02:16:30,410 --> 02:16:29,089
seller Marshall says I wonder if James

3298
02:16:31,490 --> 02:16:30,420
was into something we haven't heard

3299
02:16:36,370 --> 02:16:31,500
about yet

3300
02:16:41,870 --> 02:16:38,629
troubled mind says now the channel is

3301
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:41,880
bad no AI algorithm God that was some

3302
02:16:46,910 --> 02:16:45,120
crazy lady in the live chat I I just I

3303
02:16:48,889 --> 02:16:46,920
didn't read it I didn't mean to read it

3304
02:16:51,349 --> 02:16:48,899
I'm sorry

3305
02:16:54,770 --> 02:16:51,359
AI algorithm God's going to strike us

3306
02:16:56,990 --> 02:16:54,780
down Mike from troubled Minds right

3307
02:16:58,610 --> 02:16:57,000
and now I'm just teasing you at least

3308
02:17:00,410 --> 02:16:58,620
the Avalon I don't think you're crazy

3309
02:17:02,690 --> 02:17:00,420
well you may be crazy I mean I don't

3310
02:17:05,570 --> 02:17:02,700
know that well right all women by

3311
02:17:09,469 --> 02:17:05,580
definition are a certain Spectrum crazy

3312
02:17:10,969 --> 02:17:09,479
right the key to being married for a

3313
02:17:13,549 --> 02:17:10,979
long time is you just got to find the

3314
02:17:15,889 --> 02:17:13,559
one that has the amount or level of

3315
02:17:20,889 --> 02:17:15,899
crazy you can live with and just go with

3316
02:17:26,270 --> 02:17:23,570
maybe you should buy flowers and talk

3317
02:17:27,889 --> 02:17:26,280
sweet to it yeah I mean I'm well I was

3318
02:17:30,049 --> 02:17:27,899
willing to try anything to get it to

3319
02:17:32,810 --> 02:17:30,059
work it was so frustrating

3320
02:17:34,490 --> 02:17:32,820
that it never worked right I mean it

3321
02:17:36,049 --> 02:17:34,500
would it would print little stuff but

3322
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,059
every time I try to print the big stuff

3323
02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:39,120
and why did I spend so much money on a

3324
02:17:42,589 --> 02:17:41,280
big one if all it can do is print stuff

3325
02:17:44,929 --> 02:17:42,599
that you know I could have bought a

3326
02:17:47,810 --> 02:17:44,939
printer for 125 dollars that printed the

3327
02:17:50,089 --> 02:17:47,820
small stuff that it would print I bought

3328
02:17:52,669 --> 02:17:50,099
it so I could print real big stuff and

3329
02:17:55,310 --> 02:17:52,679
it wouldn't print the big stuff ever

3330
02:18:00,290 --> 02:17:57,230
seller Marshall what about the disaster

3331
02:18:03,049 --> 02:18:00,300
in Ohio we covered that go check our our

3332
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:03,059
live videos it's it's it's there we

3333
02:18:06,830 --> 02:18:05,280
covered that we uh we did a whole story

3334
02:18:07,730 --> 02:18:06,840
on it solar Marshall that was something

3335
02:18:12,290 --> 02:18:07,740
else

3336
02:18:13,790 --> 02:18:12,300
in Ohio is getting worse and worse by

3337
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:13,800
the day I agree we're going to do an

3338
02:18:18,770 --> 02:18:16,559
update to that story next week I have a

3339
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:18,780
witness that lives there on the ground

3340
02:18:25,070 --> 02:18:21,679
Mike join us as a guest

3341
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:25,080
people's dogs are dying and like it

3342
02:18:30,110 --> 02:18:26,639
their people are getting sick they're

3343
02:18:31,669 --> 02:18:30,120
covering it they're I don't want to say

3344
02:18:34,370 --> 02:18:31,679
that

3345
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:34,380
they're uh

3346
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:37,679
not they don't want people talking about

3347
02:18:49,310 --> 02:18:47,389
uh with James yeah well

3348
02:18:50,810 --> 02:18:49,320
yeah I did cover that this week and

3349
02:18:53,690 --> 02:18:50,820
we'll be covering it we'll be doing an

3350
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:53,700
update about that

3351
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:55,439
well I could I'll put it on my list

3352
02:18:58,669 --> 02:18:57,120
Milky Way Mark

3353
02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:58,679
um I heard about that but I haven't

3354
02:19:04,490 --> 02:19:01,679
really dug into that too much right

3355
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:04,500
yeah pragmagic that disaster in Ohio

3356
02:19:08,209 --> 02:19:06,479
people's dogs their cats if you have

3357
02:19:09,770 --> 02:19:08,219
people have chickens in their back their

3358
02:19:12,049 --> 02:19:09,780
backyard chickens they're all dying

3359
02:19:13,969 --> 02:19:12,059
there's fish dying and all the creeks

3360
02:19:16,310 --> 02:19:13,979
and streams all around there

3361
02:19:18,410 --> 02:19:16,320
I can't believe they only evacuated one

3362
02:19:22,129 --> 02:19:18,420
square mile of people and then they

3363
02:19:26,570 --> 02:19:22,139
burnt that noxious cancer-causing

3364
02:19:33,770 --> 02:19:29,030
if he may have something there I yeah I

3365
02:19:38,570 --> 02:19:36,049
James is digging out his old pimp coat

3366
02:19:39,889 --> 02:19:38,580
from his Acorn days now poor guy yeah I

3367
02:19:41,690 --> 02:19:39,899
feel bad for him especially when he

3368
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:41,700
start kind of getting emotional at the

3369
02:19:46,669 --> 02:19:44,399
end but imagine how emotional that is

3370
02:19:48,290 --> 02:19:46,679
you started this organization you turned

3371
02:19:52,370 --> 02:19:48,300
it into a multi-million dollar world

3372
02:19:54,290 --> 02:19:52,380
famous news organization and then

3373
02:19:56,450 --> 02:19:54,300
the people you brought on to run the

3374
02:19:58,849 --> 02:19:56,460
organization with you got greedy and try

3375
02:20:02,330 --> 02:19:58,859
to get rid of you right when you had

3376
02:20:04,429 --> 02:20:02,340
your most successful story ever it this

3377
02:20:06,349 --> 02:20:04,439
is a crazy story you know and the only

3378
02:20:08,690 --> 02:20:06,359
thing I can relate it to it's like apple

3379
02:20:11,210 --> 02:20:08,700
it's like Steve Jobs getting fired from

3380
02:20:13,490 --> 02:20:11,220
Apple you know they were terrible

3381
02:20:15,710 --> 02:20:13,500
without him and then eventually They

3382
02:20:17,870 --> 02:20:15,720
begged him to come back and he got

3383
02:20:19,610 --> 02:20:17,880
he got his revenge because he made

3384
02:20:22,010 --> 02:20:19,620
hundreds of millions of dollars they

3385
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:22,020
were forced to buy next computer in

3386
02:20:27,230 --> 02:20:25,200
order to get his operating system

3387
02:20:30,170 --> 02:20:27,240
um and and the next operating system

3388
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:30,180
turned into Apple OS X

3389
02:20:35,450 --> 02:20:31,680
um and it's funny there's still some

3390
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,460
things in OS X that you could see came

3391
02:20:40,730 --> 02:20:37,680
directly from next they didn't

3392
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:40,740
fully strip all of the next parts of the

3393
02:20:44,450 --> 02:20:42,240
operating system

3394
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:44,460
but he got his revenge and I think James

3395
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,280
O'Keefe is going to get his because I I

3396
02:20:50,570 --> 02:20:49,680
really don't think that

3397
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:50,580
um

3398
02:20:54,349 --> 02:20:52,560
I really don't think that they're going

3399
02:20:56,030 --> 02:20:54,359
to survive without him that's why now

3400
02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:56,040
they're backpedaling and trying to get

3401
02:21:01,790 --> 02:20:58,800
them to come to some sort of

3402
02:21:04,730 --> 02:21:01,800
uh you know negotiations or something

3403
02:21:16,990 --> 02:21:04,740
like that uh and I'm gonna try to

3404
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:19,550
yeah this is

3405
02:21:23,870 --> 02:21:22,080
they were at I think the last time I

3406
02:21:25,550 --> 02:21:23,880
looked at this they were at like 1.5

3407
02:21:28,429 --> 02:21:25,560
million

3408
02:21:29,750 --> 02:21:28,439
Twitter followers now we could see there

3409
02:21:32,809 --> 02:21:29,760
is a

3410
02:21:34,969 --> 02:21:32,819
an effort underway you know people are

3411
02:21:37,250 --> 02:21:34,979
saying on Twitter unfollow them and you

3412
02:21:38,270 --> 02:21:37,260
can follow their live Twitter follower

3413
02:21:41,990 --> 02:21:38,280
account

3414
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:42,000
and it it really looks like

3415
02:21:47,210 --> 02:21:44,640
um people are jumping off in record

3416
02:21:50,270 --> 02:21:47,220
numbers I think this was that it might

3417
02:21:53,150 --> 02:21:50,280
have been at 1.8 million or 1.6 million

3418
02:21:54,530 --> 02:21:53,160
I think I'm not sure exactly what it was

3419
02:21:56,570 --> 02:21:54,540
at but they've lost hundreds of

3420
02:21:59,150 --> 02:21:56,580
thousands I mean before this story

3421
02:22:02,030 --> 02:21:59,160
dropped uh

3422
02:22:03,710 --> 02:22:02,040
look at that it's going up and back down

3423
02:22:06,230 --> 02:22:03,720
I don't know

3424
02:22:10,490 --> 02:22:06,240
um they have lost hundreds of thousands

3425
02:22:12,770 --> 02:22:10,500
of Twitter followers uh on on Twitter

3426
02:22:15,410 --> 02:22:12,780
and I believe on YouTube and everything

3427
02:22:17,330 --> 02:22:15,420
else as well uh I'm gonna try to find

3428
02:22:20,929 --> 02:22:17,340
their

3429
02:22:25,429 --> 02:22:20,939
project varietus I'm gonna uh

3430
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:27,349
try to find their YouTube because

3431
02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:29,040
that'll give us a little more insight

3432
02:22:39,170 --> 02:22:37,610
oh I'm not going to be able to find it I

3433
02:22:41,150 --> 02:22:39,180
think you have to do underscore or

3434
02:22:43,130 --> 02:22:41,160
something

3435
02:22:49,250 --> 02:22:43,140
trying to find their uh YouTube because

3436
02:22:57,910 --> 02:22:51,349
no I can't find it oh there it is

3437
02:23:03,230 --> 02:23:01,010
wow here this this will show the story a

3438
02:23:05,990 --> 02:23:03,240
little better uh

3439
02:23:09,410 --> 02:23:06,000
let's share this tab instead

3440
02:23:14,450 --> 02:23:09,420
they are down 60 000 subscribers on

3441
02:23:18,889 --> 02:23:16,910
interesting wow look at this see here we

3442
02:23:21,469 --> 02:23:18,899
can see we can see the effect this is

3443
02:23:23,210 --> 02:23:21,479
probably the 16th that's probably right

3444
02:23:25,790 --> 02:23:23,220
around the time the story dropped that

3445
02:23:28,130 --> 02:23:25,800
this was going on minus ten thousand

3446
02:23:30,889 --> 02:23:28,140
minus forty thousand forty thousand ten

3447
02:23:33,710 --> 02:23:30,899
thousand minus two thousand minus

3448
02:23:36,110 --> 02:23:33,720
last 30 days they're down 60 000 YouTube

3449
02:23:38,150 --> 02:23:36,120
subscribers so people are voting with

3450
02:23:39,889 --> 02:23:38,160
their social media

3451
02:23:42,710 --> 02:23:39,899
um they're saying we will not support

3452
02:23:45,530 --> 02:23:42,720
you without James O'Keefe and they are

3453
02:23:47,570 --> 02:23:45,540
unsubscribing and unfollowing and as

3454
02:23:50,090 --> 02:23:47,580
well as I think people should it looks

3455
02:23:53,150 --> 02:23:50,100
pretty slimy what's going on

3456
02:23:57,650 --> 02:23:55,190
Bobby Broadway so good to see you

3457
02:23:59,090 --> 02:23:57,660
tonight Mike yeah I agree too I found a

3458
02:24:01,250 --> 02:23:59,100
little surreal to me though because it's

3459
02:24:02,809 --> 02:24:01,260
like meeting somebody from TV or

3460
02:24:04,969 --> 02:24:02,819
something I've watched him so many times

3461
02:24:08,090 --> 02:24:04,979
and listened to him so many times

3462
02:24:10,849 --> 02:24:08,100
and then talking to him in person it

3463
02:24:12,530 --> 02:24:10,859
felt a little weird but I'm glad we did

3464
02:24:14,630 --> 02:24:12,540
it finally thanks for doing that Mike

3465
02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:14,640
that was fun

3466
02:24:20,030 --> 02:24:17,760
uh oh there's a fire ready uranium plant

3467
02:24:22,250 --> 02:24:20,040
20 miles away and already having weird

3468
02:24:24,469 --> 02:24:22,260
coughing and the news is flat out lying

3469
02:24:26,270 --> 02:24:24,479
about it that's great I wasn't my best

3470
02:24:28,490 --> 02:24:26,280
brain fog happens but we'll make it no

3471
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:28,500
you were fine well I owe you a guest

3472
02:24:32,750 --> 02:24:30,240
spot I'm gonna come on your show and by

3473
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:32,760
the way troubled Minds it's 4 a.m here

3474
02:24:38,210 --> 02:24:35,760
tomorrow 4 30 almost tomorrow I'm gonna

3475
02:24:40,250 --> 02:24:38,220
post on my Google Drive I'll send you

3476
02:24:41,389 --> 02:24:40,260
the links to the audio and video of the

3477
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:41,399
show

3478
02:24:45,230 --> 02:24:43,439
yeah it was weird because you've watched

3479
02:24:47,690 --> 02:24:45,240
me too so it's a little surreal it's

3480
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:47,700
like oh they're a real person right and

3481
02:24:52,429 --> 02:24:49,439
I can interact with them this is weird

3482
02:24:55,490 --> 02:24:52,439
you know instead of just watching them

3483
02:24:57,170 --> 02:24:55,500
or listening to them you be you're not

3484
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:57,180
just watching the show you're a part of

3485
02:25:03,290 --> 02:24:59,760
it now it's it was a little weird but

3486
02:25:05,929 --> 02:25:03,300
but good weird I'm glad we did it yeah I

3487
02:25:09,590 --> 02:25:05,939
am gonna so we did our due diligence we

3488
02:25:12,889 --> 02:25:09,600
have done two shows today uh well really

3489
02:25:14,750 --> 02:25:12,899
one was after midnight so well we will

3490
02:25:17,389 --> 02:25:14,760
end up doing two shows today I'll be

3491
02:25:19,849 --> 02:25:17,399
back at 9 00 p.m Eastern Time

3492
02:25:20,809 --> 02:25:19,859
tonight and I hope you'll be here with

3493
02:25:24,050 --> 02:25:20,819
us

3494
02:25:26,270 --> 02:25:24,060
I got a really fun show planned I think

3495
02:25:30,070 --> 02:25:26,280
we're gonna do

3496
02:25:32,450 --> 02:25:30,080
sort of a challenge to Dr Steven Greer

3497
02:25:33,889 --> 02:25:32,460
because he did a recent interview where

3498
02:25:35,210 --> 02:25:33,899
he lied through his teeth through the

3499
02:25:37,309 --> 02:25:35,220
whole thing

3500
02:25:40,790 --> 02:25:37,319
and I can prove a lot of that

3501
02:25:43,490 --> 02:25:40,800
so we'll probably be talking about that

3502
02:25:46,969 --> 02:25:43,500
and I will be back 9 pm Eastern Standard

3503
02:25:50,510 --> 02:25:49,550
and I hope you'll be here with me I want

3504
02:25:52,969 --> 02:25:50,520
to thank

3505
02:25:54,469 --> 02:25:52,979
all of you kind and generous benefactors

3506
02:25:55,849 --> 02:25:54,479
I'm going to check in I don't think we

3507
02:25:57,469 --> 02:25:55,859
had any but I'm going to check in with

3508
02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:57,479
the PayPal just in case we've already

3509
02:26:01,550 --> 02:26:00,000
read all the super chats thank you for

3510
02:26:03,170 --> 02:26:01,560
your kindness generosity and support

3511
02:26:05,150 --> 02:26:03,180
I'll check in with them though just to

3512
02:26:07,730 --> 02:26:05,160
make sure once in a while I miss one

3513
02:26:11,809 --> 02:26:07,740
but I think I I got them all

3514
02:26:15,230 --> 02:26:11,819
I'll check in uh with the PayPal as well

3515
02:26:18,590 --> 02:26:15,240
we read every single uh super chat or

3516
02:26:20,690 --> 02:26:18,600
PayPal pledge during the live shows and

3517
02:26:23,210 --> 02:26:20,700
we also call you out and thank you if

3518
02:26:24,889 --> 02:26:23,220
you become a YouTube member during the

3519
02:26:26,570 --> 02:26:24,899
live shows let me just check in with the

3520
02:26:28,730 --> 02:26:26,580
super chats to make sure that we got

3521
02:26:31,250 --> 02:26:28,740
them all but I believe that we did

3522
02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:31,260
uh and this was good because uh I wasn't

3523
02:26:34,910 --> 02:26:33,359
sure anybody would be here at this late

3524
02:26:36,889 --> 02:26:34,920
at night but I was hopeful that this

3525
02:26:39,410 --> 02:26:36,899
would work and and we got great

3526
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:39,420
viewership for a show that started at

3527
02:26:44,210 --> 02:26:41,280
two o'clock in the morning uh that's for

3528
02:26:45,889 --> 02:26:44,220
sure uh not great compared to our usual

3529
02:26:49,150 --> 02:26:45,899
slot but you know

3530
02:26:52,969 --> 02:26:49,160
I'm I'm just glad there was an audience

3531
02:26:55,370 --> 02:26:52,979
thank you for being a part of it uh yeah

3532
02:26:58,190 --> 02:26:55,380
I believe that we got them all did we

3533
02:27:00,050 --> 02:26:58,200
yes we did okay we're good so we're good

3534
02:27:03,170 --> 02:27:00,060
to go I'm gonna

3535
02:27:05,030 --> 02:27:03,180
boy maybe the cure to insomnia is to

3536
02:27:07,849 --> 02:27:05,040
just exhaust yourself because I've been

3537
02:27:09,889 --> 02:27:07,859
video editing all day and all night and

3538
02:27:12,050 --> 02:27:09,899
then I did the show at nine with Mike

3539
02:27:15,230 --> 02:27:12,060
and then I video edited it for a few

3540
02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:15,240
hours and then we did this show at 2AM I

3541
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:16,319
think I'm actually going to be able to

3542
02:27:21,469 --> 02:27:19,439
sleep so thank you and uh I'm glad you

3543
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:21,479
could all be here for my first insomnia

3544
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:23,040
stream hopefully we won't have too many

3545
02:27:28,250 --> 02:27:25,920
of these before I

3546
02:27:31,010 --> 02:27:28,260
um fix my sleep schedule and start doing

3547
02:27:34,309 --> 02:27:31,020
11 A.M or 12 noon shows get up a little

3548
02:27:37,190 --> 02:27:34,319
early you know go to bed a little early

3549
02:27:38,690 --> 02:27:37,200
um but I'm sure Mike can agree with me

3550
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:38,700
you know there's a lot of adrenaline

3551
02:27:42,830 --> 02:27:41,280
with doing the live show so after a live

3552
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:42,840
show it's really hard for me to just

3553
02:27:46,790 --> 02:27:44,640
suddenly go to sleep like I can't finish

3554
02:27:48,650 --> 02:27:46,800
a show and just go right to bed that

3555
02:27:51,770 --> 02:27:48,660
just doesn't work your mind's still

3556
02:27:54,590 --> 02:27:51,780
spinning from what you just did or went

3557
02:27:56,809 --> 02:27:54,600
through with the show and

3558
02:27:58,670 --> 02:27:56,819
I don't know I'm gonna have to you know

3559
02:28:01,250 --> 02:27:58,680
and then the other issue is that I was

3560
02:28:03,469 --> 02:28:01,260
on some sleep medication that I ran out

3561
02:28:06,730 --> 02:28:03,479
of and haven't been back to the doctor

3562
02:28:09,530 --> 02:28:06,740
and uh boy we tried everything

3563
02:28:12,530 --> 02:28:09,540
I I tried like four or five different

3564
02:28:14,389 --> 02:28:12,540
medicines that didn't really help you

3565
02:28:16,610 --> 02:28:14,399
know one of them did but I thought it

3566
02:28:18,889 --> 02:28:16,620
was too strong it made me groggy the

3567
02:28:22,130 --> 02:28:18,899
next day so I didn't want to take it I

3568
02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:22,140
don't know you know I'm gonna try uh

3569
02:28:25,730 --> 02:28:24,960
I don't know warm milk hot cocoa I don't

3570
02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:25,740
know

3571
02:28:28,010 --> 02:28:27,120
yeah

3572
02:28:30,830 --> 02:28:28,020
um

3573
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:30,840
but this was a successful first insomnia

3574
02:28:36,530 --> 02:28:32,640
stream I'm glad that you could all be

3575
02:28:38,570 --> 02:28:36,540
here with me uh that this went very well

3576
02:28:39,950 --> 02:28:38,580
I'm very pleased that so many people

3577
02:28:41,510 --> 02:28:39,960
showed up and I want to thank each and

3578
02:28:44,690 --> 02:28:41,520
every one of you for being a part of it

3579
02:28:47,530 --> 02:28:44,700
maybe we'll do this more often right and

3580
02:28:51,410 --> 02:28:47,540
we'll get a schedule right

3581
02:28:52,730 --> 02:28:51,420
I I don't know oh I really gotta fix my

3582
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:52,740
sleep schedule but I'm glad that you

3583
02:28:56,270 --> 02:28:54,240
could be here with me to share my

3584
02:28:58,429 --> 02:28:56,280
insomnia it's nice to know I'm not the

3585
02:28:59,809 --> 02:28:58,439
only crazy person still awake at 4 30 in

3586
02:29:02,510 --> 02:28:59,819
the morning

3587
02:29:04,010 --> 02:29:02,520
um yeah good to have you all here with

3588
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:04,020
me we want to thank Our Kind and

3589
02:29:10,610 --> 02:29:06,240
Generous benefactors you patreon

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02:29:12,830 --> 02:29:10,620
supporters you PayPal uh pledgers you

3591
02:29:14,990 --> 02:29:12,840
channel members you twitch subscribers

3592
02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:15,000
you super Chatters super sticker

3593
02:29:21,530 --> 02:29:18,720
purchasers super thanks people and all

3594
02:29:23,870 --> 02:29:21,540
of you uh for your support of the show

3595
02:29:26,690 --> 02:29:23,880
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3596
02:29:28,730 --> 02:29:26,700
could support us like liking commenting

3597
02:29:32,210 --> 02:29:28,740
subscribing sharing these these videos

3598
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:32,220
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3599
02:29:36,650 --> 02:29:34,800
thing is I would ask you to watch one

3600
02:29:38,210 --> 02:29:36,660
more show we had a lot of new people

3601
02:29:40,010 --> 02:29:38,220
today because this is not a normal

3602
02:29:42,530 --> 02:29:40,020
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3603
02:29:45,050 --> 02:29:42,540
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3604
02:29:47,929 --> 02:29:45,060
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3605
02:29:50,870 --> 02:29:47,939
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3606
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:50,880
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3607
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3613
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3614
02:30:15,010 --> 02:30:12,600
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3615
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3616
02:30:18,590 --> 02:30:17,340
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3617
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3619
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3620
02:30:28,370 --> 02:30:26,580
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3621
02:30:30,889 --> 02:30:28,380
people too our Rumble is really taking

3622
02:30:33,710 --> 02:30:30,899
off it's nice to see so many new friends

3623
02:30:35,690 --> 02:30:33,720
so shout out to you Rumble viewers I'm

3624
02:30:37,849 --> 02:30:35,700
glad that you could be here with us so

3625
02:30:40,429 --> 02:30:37,859
glad that we started that and it's going

3626
02:30:42,770 --> 02:30:40,439
great and thanks for being here you guys

3627
02:30:45,050 --> 02:30:42,780
as well and we want to thank our chat

3628
02:30:47,870 --> 02:30:45,060
room moderators our announcer Ian our

3629
02:30:51,170 --> 02:30:47,880
wonderful graphic artist spooky

3630
02:30:52,969 --> 02:30:51,180
and uh all of you for being here I'm

3631
02:30:54,170 --> 02:30:52,979
gonna go try to sleep I think it's gonna

3632
02:30:56,929 --> 02:30:54,180
work I'm

3633
02:30:58,910 --> 02:30:56,939
I think I think so we'll try it we'll

3634
02:31:01,010 --> 02:30:58,920
see what we'll see what happens so

3635
02:31:03,050 --> 02:31:01,020
that's all I got for you friends until

3636
02:31:08,310 --> 02:31:03,060
next time my name is Stephen cambian

3637
02:31:27,530 --> 02:31:24,490
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3638
02:31:34,350 --> 02:31:27,540
thank you

3639
02:32:28,970 --> 02:32:18,309
[Music]

3640
02:32:36,969 --> 02:32:28,980
[Applause]

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02:32:39,670 --> 02:32:36,979
[Music]

3642
02:32:42,800 --> 02:32:39,680
thank you

3643
02:32:42,910 --> 02:32:42,810
[Music]

3644
02:32:52,849 --> 02:32:42,920
[Applause]

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02:32:52,859 --> 02:33:05,590
foreign

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